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  • Originally posted by Sweet_Science2 View Post
    So if Garcia is a cherry pick what the fuuck is Algeria, Mosley and Rios when Pac fought them? Answer the question. Did you give Pac shyt for picking them? Answer these questions before moving on.

    Isn't Thurman facing Porter? Brook has ONE good win and would lose easy as shyt to him. Garcia is undefeated and better than everybody on lil g resume pussie. And styles make fights with the Khan/Maidana situation and that fight was close. Maidana was very close to stopping Khan. Maidana was with a different trainer when he fought Floyd and coming off a big win with Broner. Look at the big picture dyck head.

    Or trainers can't make a fighter better? At the end of the day Garcia can fight ANY other WW and people would have that fight close to even and actually look forward to it, EXCEPT in your ****** ass logic a 40 year old Floyd Mayweather. Get your hating ass outta here with that bull shyt, if you want to see mismatches keep supporting lil g.

    Do you complain at that weak ass resume? Fighting the Wades of the world? You can never get me in this boxing talk everything I said is all FACTS.
    Cherry picks. Oh, that's right...Pac cherry picks too. Most guys at the top of the sport tend to cherry pick every now & then. I don't like it. But oh yea, they cherry pick. Pac is no exception...come on, Bradley a 3rd time?! Total cherry pick.

    Thurman has to get by Porter...err, IF he can get by Porter, I think he should call out Kell next...put some real public pressure on the guy.

    Danny Garcia just moved up to WW...just. It's hard to see that guy beating any of the top guys: Thurman, Porter, Brook, Spence, & Bradley...& all of em are gunning for him...that's the problem. Garcia will likely get his 1st loss when he faces either of them. I'm not sold on Garcia...i think he's a LW. He's a show-me guy. Show me he can actually hang at WW. Otherwise, he's just another paper champion. GGG is a more proven champion than Garcia. Nobody at 160 can challenge GGG except maybe Canelo, who's clearly tryin to duck him. Just sayin'.

    And FMJ brought this upon himself by declaring himself TBE...of course, if the fanboys believe FMJ, then beating him is going to mean that much more to a challenger. If you use the eye test, GGG would probably KO FMJ too. Look, if FMJ really was TBE, then beating GGG at age 40 would be no problem. Sugar Ray Robinson (the true TBE) fought until he was 44...150 more fights than FMJ at that point, mind you. If this was Sugar Ray Robinson, he'd take the fight purely because he'd be pissed off someone would even consider anybody near his prime weight a challenge. And you know it to be true.

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    • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      JUNIABOY supports manny-weight, AND he supports gennady-weight.....

      ..... but, he thinks that canelo-weight is absolutely disgusting


      You have most likely already owned that guy on his real account LMAO
      Are you still trolling? Didn't we already go over this? Did you want me to repost what was said about it on this thread so we can remind you? F#ck it, I'll past it anyway:

      1) Right back at ya. Nobody cares about your opinion too. What makes your opinion that much more meaningful than my opinion?. Canelo is definitely not doing what Manny did...Manny didn't campaign at a specific CW, & he practically cleaned out the WW division while waiting for FMJ. You are reaching on this.
      2) Catch weights were invented specifically so 2 champions from different weight classes can meet in the middle. You can do whatever you want with that bit of info. But, in reality, that's the only 1 reason why any CW should be used. Again, f#ck Caneloweight. You say Pacquiao dragged the little guys up & pulled the big guys down, I disagree. He fought guys closer to their prime weight, except DLH (who chose the CW) & Cotto (who truly desired the big payday no matter what). There isn't even a single time Pacquiao pulled a big fighter down. Margarito wasn't campaigning at 154...a year before, he was fighting at WW. & in his prime, he was a WW. Pacquiao gave him a break by not draining him down all the way to 147. And the guy looked huge in the ring in comparison to Pacquiao. You're grasping at straws if you think Pacquiao was doing something wrong with CW's. I don't agree with those CW's, but he did nothing wrong when he was using the CW to allow boxers to be closer to their prime (or draining himself to make the fight more even). He literally was a lightweight beating up on WW's...that's why he won fighter of the decade.

      *You can't even dispute that Pac often agreed to a CW that benefited the other fighter...look at the long list: Hatton (who is a true light-WW & Pac came in 2lbs smaller than Hatton), Margarito (went up to 152 to accomodate), JMM (went down to 144), Rios was never a CW, Algieri (his 1st fight at WW). Trolls like you belong under the bridge.

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      • Originally posted by JUNIABOY View Post
        Are you still trolling? Didn't we already go over this? Did you want me to repost what was said about it on this thread so we can remind you? F#ck it, I'll past it anyway:

        1) Right back at ya. Nobody cares about your opinion too. What makes your opinion that much more meaningful than my opinion?. Canelo is definitely not doing what Manny did...Manny didn't campaign at a specific CW, & he practically cleaned out the WW division while waiting for FMJ. You are reaching on this.
        2) Catch weights were invented specifically so 2 champions from different weight classes can meet in the middle. You can do whatever you want with that bit of info. But, in reality, that's the only 1 reason why any CW should be used. Again, f#ck Caneloweight. You say Pacquiao dragged the little guys up & pulled the big guys down, I disagree. He fought guys closer to their prime weight, except DLH (who chose the CW) & Cotto (who truly desired the big payday no matter what). There isn't even a single time Pacquiao pulled a big fighter down. Margarito wasn't campaigning at 154...a year before, he was fighting at WW. & in his prime, he was a WW. Pacquiao gave him a break by not draining him down all the way to 147. And the guy looked huge in the ring in comparison to Pacquiao. You're grasping at straws if you think Pacquiao was doing something wrong with CW's. I don't agree with those CW's, but he did nothing wrong when he was using the CW to allow boxers to be closer to their prime (or draining himself to make the fight more even). He literally was a lightweight beating up on WW's...that's why he won fighter of the decade.

        *You can't even dispute that Pac often agreed to a CW that benefited the other fighter...look at the long list: Hatton (who is a true light-WW & Pac came in 2lbs smaller than Hatton), Margarito (went up to 152 to accomodate), JMM (went down to 144), Rios was never a CW, Algieri (his 1st fight at WW). Trolls like you belong under the bridge.

        I am not refusing to understand your words.

        I understand them perfectly !

        I just happen to completely disagree with them coz they're dumb !

        On what planet can you run a nice convenient set of double-standards ?

        Fans who defend manny-weight/gennady-weight, but then bash canelo-weight..... are ******s, plain and simple.

        Regarding catchweight's, there are only 2 possible conclusions that a reasonable man could come to..... either catchweight's are acceptable, and therefore will OBVIOUSLY be abused by the A-side to disadvantage his opponent..... or, catchweight's are not acceptable, because they are completely unnecessary what with 17 divisions now available today, and should therefore be abolished immediately.....

        ..... but in my opinion one of those conclusions is obviously much better than the other, and BOTH are better than your conclusion..... manny-weight is fine, gennady-weight is fine, canelo-weight is ****.

        Ignorant casual-fans belong under a bridge, with the trolls.

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        • Originally posted by JUNIABOY View Post
          Cherry picks. Oh, that's right...Pac cherry picks too. Most guys at the top of the sport tend to cherry pick every now & then. I don't like it. But oh yea, they cherry pick. Pac is no exception...come on, Bradley a 3rd time?! Total cherry pick.

          Thurman has to get by Porter...err, IF he can get by Porter, I think he should call out Kell next...put some real public pressure on the guy.

          Danny Garcia just moved up to WW...just. It's hard to see that guy beating any of the top guys: Thurman, Porter, Brook, Spence, & Bradley...& all of em are gunning for him...that's the problem. Garcia will likely get his 1st loss when he faces either of them. I'm not sold on Garcia...i think he's a LW. He's a show-me guy. Show me he can actually hang at WW. Otherwise, he's just another paper champion. GGG is a more proven champion than Garcia. Nobody at 160 can challenge GGG except maybe Canelo, who's clearly tryin to duck him. Just sayin'.

          And FMJ brought this upon himself by declaring himself TBE...of course, if the fanboys believe FMJ, then beating him is going to mean that much more to a challenger. If you use the eye test, GGG would probably KO FMJ too. Look, if FMJ really was TBE, then beating GGG at age 40 would be no problem. Sugar Ray Robinson (the true TBE) fought until he was 44...150 more fights than FMJ at that point, mind you. If this was Sugar Ray Robinson, he'd take the fight purely because he'd be pissed off someone would even consider anybody near his prime weight a challenge. And you know it to be true.

          So you are saying Floyd should move up at 40 years old and fight a middleweight but pussie g shoudn't move up ONE time in his fuucking career and fight Ward? Do you want to see lil g fight Ward?

          What do you think about lil g trying to fight fighters at 168 but not Ward? Was you calling lil g a coward for not moving up in weight? Fighting the Wades of the world?

          If Floyd was at 160 he would beat the shyt out of lil g easy as fuuck. If Floyd had the weight advantage over pussie g you wouldn't even want to see that fight. You see how you groupies get when you bring up Ward. To this day I have not heard ONE pussie g fan say they want to see that Ward fight.

          pussie g is in a trash garbage division! Floyd moved up 5 weight classes and been on top for a long time. pussie gt moved up ZERO weight class and has been feeding on bums his whole career AM I LYING?

          pussie g needs to step his fuucking game up. Garcia has a much, much, better resume then him.

          So answer those lil g questions. Since this is what you want for boxing. I asked some good questions so can you criticize pussie g? Are you a fanboy who looks pass all the bull shyt pussie g is doing?

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          • why is this idiot saying G weight.
            i thought 160 was mw

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            • Originally posted by Sweet_Science2 View Post
              So you are saying Floyd should move up at 40 years old and fight a middleweight but pussie g shoudn't move up ONE time in his fuucking career and fight Ward? Do you want to see lil g fight Ward?

              What do you think about lil g trying to fight fighters at 168 but not Ward? Was you calling lil g a coward for not moving up in weight? Fighting the Wades of the world?

              If Floyd was at 160 he would beat the shyt out of lil g easy as fuuck. If Floyd had the weight advantage over pussie g you wouldn't even want to see that fight. You see how you groupies get when you bring up Ward. To this day I have not heard ONE pussie g fan say they want to see that Ward fight.

              pussie g is in a trash garbage division! Floyd moved up 5 weight classes and been on top for a long time. pussie gt moved up ZERO weight class and has been feeding on bums his whole career AM I LYING?

              pussie g needs to step his fuucking game up. Garcia has a much, much, better resume then him.

              So answer those lil g questions. Since this is what you want for boxing. I asked some good questions so can you criticize pussie g? Are you a fanboy who looks pass all the bull shyt pussie g is doing?
              He's not being asked to move up...he's being asked to defend the belts he won at 154. And don't give me that crap about him being a smaller fighter. TBE, remember? If he's fought & won at 154, if he owns belts at 154, why would it be a stretch for him to beat a "hype train" at 154? Like I said, FMJ did this to himself. "Easy work," right? TBE?...prove it.

              And Ward is a show me, guy...show me he can still make 168. Can he still make 168? Really, what you'll be looking at is they'll probably have to fight at some CW in the LHW division...something like 172 or 173...or it might never happen. How is it so hard to see the difference?! GGG has to move up 2 weight classes to fight at a weight class he's never fought at against 1 of his bigger tests, vs. FMJ having to defend the champion status he had at a weight he's fought at more than once?...2 totally different things...FMJ is not being asked to fight at 160. And it's not like an FMJ/GGG fight is ever happening. But why the insistence that it's not a fantastic challenge for the guy who proclaimed himself TBE?

              I'm a boxing fan. I want to see the best fights. But how can you even excuse a guy who continually calls out a boxer 2 weight classes smaller when it was he himself who blocked the fight from happening when he signed a contract to fight at 175?...He could have stayed at 168 & gone after the boxer he really wanted, right? Explain that. Virtually ever other boxer would be called out on this BS...every, other, boxer.

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              • Originally posted by JUNIABOY View Post
                He's not being asked to move up...he's being asked to defend the belts he won at 154. And don't give me that crap about him being a smaller fighter. TBE, remember? If he's fought & won at 154, if he owns belts at 154, why would it be a stretch for him to beat a "hype train" at 154? Like I said, FMJ did this to himself. "Easy work," right? TBE?...prove it.

                And Ward is a show me, guy...show me he can still make 168. Can he still make 168? Really, what you'll be looking at is they'll probably have to fight at some CW in the LHW division...something like 172 or 173...or it might never happen. How is it so hard to see the difference?! GGG has to move up 2 weight classes to fight at a weight class he's never fought at against 1 of his bigger tests, vs. FMJ having to defend the champion status he had at a weight he's fought at more than once?...2 totally different things...FMJ is not being asked to fight at 160. And it's not like an FMJ/GGG fight is ever happening. But why the insistence that it's not a fantastic challenge for the guy who proclaimed himself TBE?

                I'm a boxing fan. I want to see the best fights. But how can you even excuse a guy who continually calls out a boxer 2 weight classes smaller when it was he himself who blocked the fight from happening when he signed a contract to fight at 175?...He could have stayed at 168 & gone after the boxer he really wanted, right? Explain that. Virtually ever other boxer would be called out on this BS...every, other, boxer.

                Man you have to be a lil g fan boy. You did not answer ANY of my fuucking questions regarding pussie g and his resume. Before I answer the bolded parts. How did you feel about, Wade, Monroe, Murray, Adama, Rubio? Do you like that resume? How come you don't want pussie g to move up? If your a boxing fan be consistent lil g has a HORRIBLE resume.

                Now the first bolded part. You just said something ******. "how me he can still make 168. Can he still make 168?"

                This is what you pussie g fans always use to get out of that fight so Ward won't beat his head in, Has Ward fought at 168 before? Did he not move up to get bigger fights with Kovalev something pussie g was not willing to do.

                And on that same point. You want Floyd to fight pussie g at 154! Did you ever ask. "Can pussie g make 154?" He has NEVER fought in that division. Yet you think he can make 154 but Ward can't make 168 a division he HAS ACTUALLY FOUGHT IN.

                You see how ******* try and twist the logic when it suits them. So Why did you not question wether or not pussie g could make 154? ANSWER THE QUESTION

                Why did you question if Ward could not make 168?

                This is what I know, you think pussie g has an advantage over Floyd because of the weight difference. But on the flip side you question wether or not Ward who would have EVERY advantage over pussie g can actually make 168. Pussie g would NOT have to move up two divisions, he would move up one and get his mother******** ass whooped by Ward.

                Answer my questions. I answered yours. Ward moved up to be great and fight Kovalev. While pussie g just got a win over Wade a dude who has NEVER had a 12 round fight until that one. FACTS! But talk about triple bytch is resume you ******** groupie

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                • Originally posted by Sweet_Science2 View Post
                  Man you have to be a lil g fan boy. You did not answer ANY of my fuucking questions regarding pussie g and his resume. Before I answer the bolded parts. How did you feel about, Wade, Monroe, Murray, Adama, Rubio? Do you like that resume? How come you don't want pussie g to move up? If your a boxing fan be consistent lil g has a HORRIBLE resume.

                  Now the first bolded part. You just said something ******. "how me he can still make 168. Can he still make 168?"

                  This is what you pussie g fans always use to get out of that fight so Ward won't beat his head in, Has Ward fought at 168 before? Did he not move up to get bigger fights with Kovalev something pussie g was not willing to do.

                  And on that same point. You want Floyd to fight pussie g at 154! Did you ever ask. "Can pussie g make 154?" He has NEVER fought in that division. Yet you think he can make 154 but Ward can't make 168 a division he HAS ACTUALLY FOUGHT IN.

                  You see how ******* try and twist the logic when it suits them. So Why did you not question wether or not pussie g could make 154? ANSWER THE QUESTION

                  Why did you question if Ward could not make 168?

                  This is what I know, you think pussie g has an advantage over Floyd because of the weight difference. But on the flip side you question wether or not Ward who would have EVERY advantage over pussie g can actually make 168. Pussie g would NOT have to move up two divisions, he would move up one and get his mother******** ass whooped by Ward.

                  Answer my questions. I answered yours. Ward moved up to be great and fight Kovalev. While pussie g just got a win over Wade a dude who has NEVER had a 12 round fight until that one. FACTS! But talk about triple bytch is resume you ******** groupie
                  LOL, yes!...Yes!...let your hate flow. This is supposed to be a conversation & a debate. You've made your points...& I disagree. Let's begin, shall we?

                  1) Keith "One Time" Thurman is my favorite fighter. I've said this before. And I'll make it clear to you now so you know what's up. GGG is in my top-3, that's for sure. Although I was on the Roman Gonzalez bandwagon for much longer. I'm a boxing fan first & foremost. If a boxer is doing something I don't like, I'll say I don't like it. I have no hangups whatsoever of calling a cherry pick a cherry pick.

                  2) RE: GGG's resume. Yes, it's not very strong. But only from certain point-of-views do you attack it. You don't leave any room for the circumstances or reasons for taking those fights. Some of those can be considered cherry picks. But not Rubio, because that's how he became the WBC mandatory (which put him in the position he is in now in regards to Canelo)...a cherry pick, but a necessary cherry pick...Murray was a tough SoB who was easily a top-5 MW at the time (& is not a top SMW since moving up)...not a cherry pick...Wade was a mandatory, & if GGG wanted to keep his belts, he had to take the fight...a cherry pick, but a necessary fight; & Adama & Munroe was they best they could do one finding credible opponents...GGG was still an unknown then. Hey, I don't like cherry picks either. But it is what it is. GGG is a stay busy boxer. Back when he fought Adama, he was only known by hardcore boxing fans. Now look at him. So, no, I don't believe as you do in thinking that GGG's resume is as weak as you say it is. But isn't this an exercise in futility for you? Shouldn't you be pressuring the other top fighters to take the GGG fight rather than the other way around? Have you not seen the excuses from some of these guys? Wouldn't that be the better option?

                  3) RE: Ward. You failed to read between the lines. When I said he can't make 168 anymore, what was meant was that his 2-year inactivity might have forced his body to grow. The case can be made that he was already on his way to 175 when he fought a tune-up against Paul Smith at 172...before he signed the 3-fight deal with HBO. And the other piece of evidence is that he fought in the amateurs at LHW. But went down to SMW when he entered the pros. He had to melt to 168 his whole career. So, in essence, what I meant when I query Ward being able to make 168, I meant that as a rhetorical question. Rhetorical. You see that...Ward is a show-me fighter in regard to GGG. Can he even melt down to 168 anymore now that he's going to campaign at 175? That one is not rhetorical. Because for Ward to demand a fight at 168 & no longer make 168...wouldn't the whole argument be moot? And if Ward cannot make 168, wouldn't the bout have to be made at 175 or a CW of 172?...wouldn't that mean that GGG is climbing up 2 weight classes? Do the math please.

                  4) RE: FMJ. Actually, the reverse is true. You have to look at it from the smaller fighter's position. Comparing FMJ to Ward is not the same because Ward would have to come down for GGG. And you're totally forgetting the FMJ factor. Ward doesn't have that extra intangible to his career the way FMJ, self-proclaimed TBE, has had to thread. FMJ gets a different standard as a generational fighter. So, looking at it from the parallels of GGG to FMJ, GGG is moving up to a weight division he's never competed in versus FMJ going to defend belts he won at a weight class he actually has competed in before...these 2 situations are not the same thing. There it is. Spelled out for you. The challenge for GGG to go up to fight Ward at 168 is a greater challenge for FMJ to defend belts he won at 154. It's just that simple. Therefore, mister TBE FMJ was straight talking smack when he said GGG was "easy work." He never intended on fighting him. And if he does, I'll eat my words.

                  5) RE: Canelo. GGG wouldn't fight Canelo at 155 for the principle of defending the MW. The principle. Are you defending Canelo now? One might stand to reason that GGG can actually melt down to 154...but chose not to melt down to 155 on the principle of the MW belt. I can believe that from a sport perspective. It would be honorable. Once again, Canelo is a show me fighter because if he wants to say he is not a MW...well, then show me & go back down to 154. But if he doesn't fight GGG & fights somebody at 155, then that already is evidence he is a MW. He just chooses to melt down an extra 5 lbs for the helluva it. If Canelo cannot make 154, what is he?...he's a MW. Deal.

                  Just stop already. From a boxing fan's perspective, you are going nowhere.

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                  • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    I am not refusing to understand your words.

                    I understand them perfectly !

                    I just happen to completely disagree with them coz they're dumb !

                    On what planet can you run a nice convenient set of double-standards ?

                    Fans who defend manny-weight/gennady-weight, but then bash canelo-weight..... are ******s, plain and simple.

                    Regarding catchweight's, there are only 2 possible conclusions that a reasonable man could come to..... either catchweight's are acceptable, and therefore will OBVIOUSLY be abused by the A-side to disadvantage his opponent..... or, catchweight's are not acceptable, because they are completely unnecessary what with 17 divisions now available today, and should therefore be abolished immediately.....

                    ..... but in my opinion one of those conclusions is obviously much better than the other, and BOTH are better than your conclusion..... manny-weight is fine, gennady-weight is fine, canelo-weight is ****.

                    Ignorant casual-fans belong under a bridge, with the trolls.
                    Those are not double standards. I chose option C. Look, in a country of ********s & **********s, I choose neither. Between Coke or Pepsi, I choose water. There is more than 1 way to look at boxing. I don't have to either hate CW's or 100% support them. Who's going to make me? Expand your reasoning a bit, here. It's like dealing with a 12-year-old who can't put all the dots together. It's up to a boxing fan to choose what styles & whatnot to like. If I'm telling you that a CW is only ever proper if the only way the bout is being made is when the two fighters from 2 weight classes meet in the middle at a CW, then I'm telling you that I can choose option C on your made-up fence. There you go. I spelled it out for you. I don't have to take a hard stance on a subject that's gray. That's ******. GGG chose not to fight Canelo at 155 for the principle of the 160 belt. These things happen...in fact, you saw it unravel right before your eyes. Yet you refuse to understand what I'm telling you. Go back to your bridge, troll...

                    (Oh, & way to steal my metaphors, troll).

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                    • Originally posted by JUNIABOY View Post
                      LOL, yes!...Yes!...let your hate flow. This is supposed to be a conversation & a debate. You've made your points...& I disagree. Let's begin, shall we?

                      1) Keith "One Time" Thurman is my favorite fighter. I've said this before. And I'll make it clear to you now so you know what's up. GGG is in my top-3, that's for sure. Although I was on the Roman Gonzalez bandwagon for much longer. I'm a boxing fan first & foremost. If a boxer is doing something I don't like, I'll say I don't like it. I have no hangups whatsoever of calling a cherry pick a cherry pick.

                      2) RE: GGG's resume. Yes, it's not very strong. But only from certain point-of-views do you attack it. You don't leave any room for the circumstances or reasons for taking those fights. Some of those can be considered cherry picks. But not Rubio, because that's how he became the WBC mandatory (which put him in the position he is in now in regards to Canelo)...a cherry pick, but a necessary cherry pick...Murray was a tough SoB who was easily a top-5 MW at the time (& is not a top SMW since moving up)...not a cherry pick...Wade was a mandatory, & if GGG wanted to keep his belts, he had to take the fight...a cherry pick, but a necessary fight; & Adama & Munroe was they best they could do one finding credible opponents...GGG was still an unknown then. Hey, I don't like cherry picks either. But it is what it is. GGG is a stay busy boxer. Back when he fought Adama, he was only known by hardcore boxing fans. Now look at him. So, no, I don't believe as you do in thinking that GGG's resume is as weak as you say it is. But isn't this an exercise in futility for you? Shouldn't you be pressuring the other top fighters to take the GGG fight rather than the other way around? Have you not seen the excuses from some of these guys? Wouldn't that be the better option?

                      3) RE: Ward. You failed to read between the lines. When I said he can't make 168 anymore, what was meant was that his 2-year inactivity might have forced his body to grow. The case can be made that he was already on his way to 175 when he fought a tune-up against Paul Smith at 172...before he signed the 3-fight deal with HBO. And the other piece of evidence is that he fought in the amateurs at LHW. But went down to SMW when he entered the pros. He had to melt to 168 his whole career. So, in essence, what I meant when I query Ward being able to make 168, I meant that as a rhetorical question. Rhetorical. You see that...Ward is a show-me fighter in regard to GGG. Can he even melt down to 168 anymore now that he's going to campaign at 175? That one is not rhetorical. Because for Ward to demand a fight at 168 & no longer make 168...wouldn't the whole argument be moot? And if Ward cannot make 168, wouldn't the bout have to be made at 175 or a CW of 172?...wouldn't that mean that GGG is climbing up 2 weight classes? Do the math please.

                      4) RE: FMJ. Actually, the reverse is true. You have to look at it from the smaller fighter's position. Comparing FMJ to Ward is not the same because Ward would have to come down for GGG. And you're totally forgetting the FMJ factor. Ward doesn't have that extra intangible to his career the way FMJ, self-proclaimed TBE, has had to thread. FMJ gets a different standard as a generational fighter. So, looking at it from the parallels of GGG to FMJ, GGG is moving up to a weight division he's never competed in versus FMJ going to defend belts he won at a weight class he actually has competed in before...these 2 situations are not the same thing. There it is. Spelled out for you. The challenge for GGG to go up to fight Ward at 168 is a greater challenge for FMJ to defend belts he won at 154. It's just that simple. Therefore, mister TBE FMJ was straight talking smack when he said GGG was "easy work." He never intended on fighting him. And if he does, I'll eat my words.

                      5) RE: Canelo. GGG wouldn't fight Canelo at 155 for the principle of defending the MW. The principle. Are you defending Canelo now? One might stand to reason that GGG can actually melt down to 154...but chose not to melt down to 155 on the principle of the MW belt. I can believe that from a sport perspective. It would be honorable. Once again, Canelo is a show me fighter because if he wants to say he is not a MW...well, then show me & go back down to 154. But if he doesn't fight GGG & fights somebody at 155, then that already is evidence he is a MW. He just chooses to melt down an extra 5 lbs for the helluva it. If Canelo cannot make 154, what is he?...he's a MW. Deal.

                      Just stop already. From a boxing fan's perspective, you are going nowhere.

                      God you talk rubbish, Captain-Save-A-Hoe.....

                      Tell me, did typing all that **** somehow improve Golovkin's resume, or change the fact that he ducked Andre Ward?

                      Didn't think so.

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