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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #21
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    Will HBO allow Golovkin to fight on another channel? I can't see K2 outbidding Haymon when it goes to the inevitable purse bids for a Jacobs fight.
    If you're HBo, would you? Of course they won't...I'm not sure if GGG is still under any obligations to HBO though, I thought the Wade fight was the 4th of 4 on his deal. I could be completely wrong though who knows lol.

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      #22
      Originally posted by j0zef
      Lemieux had leverage - he had a belt. Jacobs has nothing. The fight was also on PPV.

      As for Jacobs being more known, that's heavily arguable. For example, Google disagrees with you:
      Google Trends Lemieux vs. Jacobs


      Jacobs' only chance is to hope that Golovkin can't fight off HBO, and basically blackmail him.
      Yeah he has the same leverage GGG had on Canelo, that looming purse bid...that would suck if Jacobs team won't sit down and at least try to hammer a deal out with K2 before the bid...would GGG drop the title in lieu of fighting off HBO? That would blow.

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        #23
        I think something you're overlooking with reasonable #'s is GGG's purse. GGG is only getting $2M per fight himself. And he's the A side at this point vs everyone at 160 except Canelo still. So either he's gonna need to have HBO throw more money his way or these guys are gonna be getting $1M-2Mish.

        And BJS has already implied $6M is his number so there isn't a number to even get him involved unless he kidnaps Canelo & dresses up like him on fight night.

        This is the ****ty catch 22 for GGG. He's not making huge purses so no bigger names will fight him & he can't get huge purses cuz he's got no big names on his resume.

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          #24
          Originally posted by j0zef
          Lemieux had leverage - he had a belt. Jacobs has nothing. The fight was also on PPV.

          As for Jacobs being more known, that's heavily arguable. For example, Google disagrees with you:
          Google Trends Lemieux vs. Jacobs


          Jacobs' only chance is to hope that Golovkin can't fight off HBO, and basically blackmail him.
          We'll if you're gonna compare now I would assume Lemiuex would be hotter considering he just fought on the Canelo undercard and nobody has heard from Jacobs in 8 months lol... They paid Lemeuix that money when he was unknown to basically anyone outside of us hard cores .

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            #25
            Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
            If you're HBo, would you?
            What channel is Kovalev vs Chilemba going to be on?

            I'm pretty sure, it's not HBO

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              #26
              Originally posted by j0zef
              Lemieux had leverage - he had a belt. Jacobs has nothing. The fight was also on PPV.

              As for Jacobs being more known, that's heavily arguable. For example, Google disagrees with you:
              Google Trends Lemieux vs. Jacobs


              Jacobs' only chance is to hope that Golovkin can't fight off HBO, and basically blackmail him.
              I think Tom Loeffler disagrees with you

              Tom thinks Jacobs vs GGG is massive in NYC and bigger than GGG - Pepe La Pew

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                #27
                Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                We'll if you're gonna compare now I would assume Lemiuex would be hotter considering he just fought on the Canelo undercard and nobody has heard from Jacobs in 8 months lol... They paid Lemeuix that money when he was unknown to basically anyone outside of us hard cores .
                Google Trends is not the end-of-it-all measurement of popularity, although it's pretty damn good. But the beauty of that app is that it shows you popularity over time. Change the timeline (on top) to last 12 months. The Quillin/Jacobs interest resulted in a slight bump, which was the same as interest in Lemieux before Oct15. If you look at the period when neither was fighting, Lemieux is more popular than Jacobs.

                Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                I think Tom Loeffler disagrees with you

                Tom thinks Jacobs vs GGG is massive in NYC and bigger than GGG - Pepe La Pew
                Show me where?
                Loeffler has not publicly turned down any fight. He does his job by making every fight sound awesome.

                As a recent example, when Kell Brook said he'll fight Golovkin, Golovkin said that he's not fighting Brook because he's too small
                Link: http://www.boxing news24.com/2016/04/208692
                While Loeffler was all about the fight
                Link: http://www.boxing news24.com/2016/04/208967/
                And the irony is that Loeffler's statement came 4 days AFTER Golovkin.

                There have been examples of this all over. For example, Golovkin has said that a fight with Chavez Jr is not serious, while Loeffler kept talking about it. Same thing with Ward - even after Golovkin said "you're dead to me", Loeffler still kept saying they would be interested in a fight with Ward.


                Even OnePunch was saying a few days ago that he's tired of Loeffler's nice guy attitude.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                  I think Tom Loeffler disagrees with you

                  Tom thinks Jacobs vs GGG is massive in NYC and bigger than GGG - Pepe La Pew
                  Jacobs deserves at least 10 million. And if he's not given that much, then its 100% Lil Ass G's fault for being a diva and a coward.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by j0zef

                    Show me where?
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                    http://******.craveonline.com/news/4...-jacobs-in-nyc

                    “Being able to make this fight with Wade, if (Golovkin is) successful, then certainly a fight with Danny Jacobs, who is clearly at the top also of the middleweight division – he had a very impressive knockout of Peter Quillin,” Loeffler told ******.com. “And Gennady being able to sell out (Madison Square Garden) in his last fight – you can only imagine how big a fight between Gennady and Jacobs would be in New York. That would be a monster fight in the New York area. From our side, there wouldn’t be any obstacles to making that fight.”

                    Here's another interview on the subject

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                      http://******.craveonline.com/news/4...-jacobs-in-nyc

                      “Being able to make this fight with Wade, if (Golovkin is) successful, then certainly a fight with Danny Jacobs, who is clearly at the top also of the middleweight division – he had a very impressive knockout of Peter Quillin,” Loeffler told ******.com. “And Gennady being able to sell out (Madison Square Garden) in his last fight – you can only imagine how big a fight between Gennady and Jacobs would be in New York. That would be a monster fight in the New York area. From our side, there wouldn’t be any obstacles to making that fight.”

                      Here's another interview on the subject

                      I meant show me where he says it's bigger than Lemieux.
                      He generally says every fight is big and they would love to make it.

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