Who's the greatest white heavyweight boxer of all time?

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  • mrpain81
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    #201
    No Doubt

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    • Enayze
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      #202
      Its going to be Wladimir Klitschko.

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      • The Hammer
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        #203
        The greatest heavyweight of all time, black or white, is Rocky Marciano.

        The greatest light heavyweight is Gene Tunney.

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        • The Hammer
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          #204
          People say Joe Louis was an old man when Rocky defeated him.

          But Joe Louis was three years younger when Rocky beat him, than Oleg Maskaev was when Peter defeated him!

          Joe Louis was the same age when he fought Rocky Marciano, age 36, as Joe Calzaghe will be on Sunday! Here yesterday, someone called Joe Calzaghe a "young" fighter.

          Schmeling was older when he lost his rematch to Louis, than Louis was when Rocky KOed him.
          Last edited by The Hammer; 03-21-2008, 11:58 AM.

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          • J_CON
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            #205
            Rocky Marciano by a long long long shot.

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            • MikeBrew328
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              #206
              Originally posted by Tunney
              People say Joe Louis was an old man when Rocky defeated him.

              But Joe Louis was three years younger when Rocky beat him, than Oleg Maskaev was when Peter defeated him!

              Joe Louis was the same age when he fought Rocky Marciano, age 36, as Joe Calzaghe will be on Sunday! Here yesterday, someone called Joe Calzaghe a "young" fighter.

              Schmeling was older when he lost his rematch to Louis, then Louis was when Rocky KOed him.
              Oleg Maskaev, Joe Calzaghe, even Max Schmeling didn't fight 75 professinal fights at the time, get real. Plus Joe was only fighting for the money, he knew he was shot.

              Still, Muhammad Ali slightly edges out Louis as the greatest heavyweight of all time

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              • Jim Jeffries
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                #207
                Originally posted by fist-of-fury
                In the 70's, it's called the GREAT WHITE HOPE. I think so far Vitaly Klitschko has got what it takes to be the greatest white heavyweight boxer of all time. (Do we consider John Ruiz, who has been a title-holder for sometime now, a "white"?)
                A number of white sluggers in the past also comes to mind. They provided life, excitement and top-caliber challenges in the black-dominated heavyweight division.

                Rocky Marciano
                Joe Bugner
                Tommy Morrison
                Gerry Cooney
                Duane Bobick
                Henry Cooper
                Jerry Quarry
                George Chuvalo
                Gerrie Coetzee
                Chuck Wepner (who inspired the first Rocky movie)
                Randy "Tex" Cobb
                James "Bonecrusher" Smith
                to name a few.

                Who's the greatest white HW boxer of all time for you?
                Bonecrusher Smith was black.

                Between James J. Jeffries and Rocky Marciano.

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                • The Hammer
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by MikeBrew328
                  Oleg Maskaev, Joe Calzaghe, even Max Schmeling didn't fight 75 professinal fights at the time, get real. Plus Joe was only fighting for the money, he knew he was shot.

                  Still, Muhammad Ali slightly edges out Louis as the greatest heavyweight of all time
                  Rocky Marciano was definitely better than Ali. Rocky never lost, Ali lost five fights (and really lost a few more, he was given some gift decisions!).

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                  • Silencers
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Tunney
                    Rocky Marciano was definitely better than Ali. Rocky never lost, Ali lost five fights (and really lost a few more, he was given some gift decisions!).
                    Fighters shouldn't be ranked by how many fights lost. Ray Robinson lost 19 fights. Rocky could've arguably lost to La Starza the first time they fought and was getting soundly beaten by Jersy Joe until he landed the Suzie Q.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by silencers98
                      Fighters shouldn't be ranked by how many fights lost. Ray Robinson lost 19 fights. Rocky could've arguably lost to La Starza the first time they fought and was getting soundly beaten by Jersy Joe until he landed the Suzie Q.
                      But that's part of what made Marciano special, the Suzie Q!

                      Ali couldn't do that against Norton or the others when he was losing. If Marciano had the more limited power of Ali, he might have lost that Jersey Joe fight!

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