If GBP/K2 asked the WBC for a 30 day extension....

[Jsmooth9876]

Canelo dropped the belt so he can demand the fight at 155 simple and plain....that is why they are still negotiating

Oh, I agree 100%. But they use the excuse that they won't be dictated to based on a time frame when in reality that time frame wouldn't even be an issue if they chose for it not to be... It's all about getting every advantage going in, and Canelo is the A side but 155 shouldn't and won't happen...157-158 and fair money for GGG and it doesn't happen then I blame K2/GGG for the fight not happening

[SUBZER0ED]

Canelo dropped the belt so he can demand the fight at 155 simple and plain....that is why they are still negotiating

I really don't think Canelo wants Golovkin at all. Given that Canelo thinks he's this huge star, he's going to want big money for his fights. The only way he's going to get a big payday is PPV. How can they pull off a PPV fight with no title at stake? Why risk an ass whipping from Golovkin for a small purse?

[SUBZER0ED]

Oh, I agree 100%. But they use the excuse that they won't be dictated to based on a time frame when in reality that time frame wouldn't even be an issue if they chose for it not to be... It's all about getting every advantage going in, and Canelo is the A side but 155 shouldn't and won't happen...157-158 and fair money for GGG and it doesn't happen then I blame K2/GGG for the fight not happening

So Canelo clearly ducks Golovkin by dropping his belt, but you'll blame Golovkin if he doesn't agree to Canelo's & Oscar's work-around scheme? WTF??

[about.thousands]

WOW!!! So apparently GBP never even came to the negotiating table.....

Nope, they sure didn't. Just follow the timeline of events. K2 and GBP said they wouldn't negotiate in the media. Then there was that fight hype article stating Canelo/GBP were asking for 2-3 interim fights. Everybody said they were crazy. Then the WBC came out and said that's not going to happen. They're confident both sides will come to an agreement and the fight will happen. And they reiterated that the purse bid is set for the 24th. Then Loeffler came out and said no more interim fights.

“I can tell you that any reports … that there are interim fights being discussed is completely false,” Loeffler told The Times on Tuesday. “We have made it clear to Golden Boy and the WBC that there would be no interim fights or extensions to the purse bid. … Canelo got one interim fight. Now he needs to fight Triple G.”

On the same day Mannix says they haven't met each other face to face. How would he know that? Somebody from K2 leaked it to him because they knew Canelo and GBP weren't negotiating in good faith. And then the next day Canelo vacates. They were never serious about making this fight. Canelo says dropping the belt will get rid of artificial deadlines and they can continue negotiations. But why would he drop his most important bargaining chip?

[Jsmooth9876]

So Canelo clearly ducks Golovkin by dropping his belt, but you'll blame Golovkin if he doesn't agree to Canelo's work-around scheme? WTF??

Well by dropping the belt he now goes back to saying he's not a true middleweight and he's never fought one...
If GGG wants the prestige and name on his record, he has to cave on some stuff, we know that... It's always been this way and will continue to be when one guy is the face of boxing.... GGG can make the weight and win, he should take the risk...

[PK3434]

Of course they would've gotten an extension.

All they had to do by May 24th was say that they want the fight. Thats it.

Then there would be a 30 day official negotiation period which would be even easier to get an extension on because of the understandable complexities of making a huge ppv fight.

Also, this fight would have never gone to a purse bid. K2 understood that Golovkin wasn't going to get 45% and was fine with that. Every promoter that has worked with Loeffler has said that he has been easy to make a deal with.

This move will backfire on Canelo, horribly. It was not well thought out...just defiant.

[Larry the boss]

I really don't think Canelo wants Golovkin at all. Given that Canelo thinks he's this huge star, he's going to want big money for his fights. The only way he's going to get a big payday is PPV. How can they pull off a PPV fight with no title at stake? Why risk an ass whipping from Golovkin for a small purse?

No title at stake??? the WBC/WBA/IBF/RING/LINEAL titles would all be at stake

[boliodogs]

Completely disagree. The WBC would not have been the roadblock to this fight, you're crazy. They would've given as much time needed as long as both parties were on board. It seems as tho K2 is tired of getting jerked around. They took a step aside, gave a voluntary defense, and finally it seems they've had enough.

You are the one who is crazy. Golden Boy was stalling and if you can't see that you are blind as a bat. How many times do K2 have to say they are not on board and won't put up with not being declared the full champion for one minute past the May24th deadline before you get it. Sure, the WBC would have let Canelo keep his title if both sides were find with that. GGG and his team made it crystal clear they wanted that belt on the 24th no ifs ands or buts and no fights below 160. So both sides being OK with Canelo remaining champ past the deadline was a situation that NEVER EXISTED.

[Flash13]

Nope, they sure didn't. Just follow the timeline of events. K2 and GBP said they wouldn't negotiate in the media. Then there was that fight hype article stating Canelo/GBP were asking for 2-3 interim fights. Everybody said they were crazy. Then the WBC came out and said that's not going to happen. They're confident both sides will come to an agreement and the fight will happen. And they reiterated that the purse bid is set for the 24th. Then Loeffler came out and said no more interim fights.



On the same day Mannix says they haven't met each other face to face. How would he know that? Somebody from K2 leaked it to him because they knew Canelo and GBP weren't negotiating in good faith. And then the next day Canelo vacates. They were never serious about making this fight. Canelo says dropping the belt will get rid of artificial deadlines and they can continue negotiations. But why would he drop his most important bargaining chip?

Wow you're really on top of this gj. The bolded looks like a really good assumption. I thought it was weird Loeffler came out(after media silence), and talked about no more interm fights, he must have seen the writing on the wall. I love using the word "artificial" for describing that deadline SOOO TRUE!!

[Larry the boss]

Well by dropping the belt he now goes back to saying he's not a true middleweight and he's never fought one...
If GGG wants the prestige and name on his record, he has to cave on some stuff, we know that... It's always been this way and will continue to be when one guy is the face of boxing.... GGG can make the weight and win, he should take the risk...

I agree GGG will either have to go down or go up to get a BIG fight..point blank period