How the **** did Mike Tyson have a body builder's body from boxing workouts?

[hayZ]

I'm 5'11 1/2 and weigh maybe 160 at the most soaking wet if I'm lucky. People call me skinny and some even lanky..I'm just a terrible eater and in fact built like a stocky Broner when I do pig out occasionally with thick hips,legs,shoulders, I can just never sustain it so these areas are usually a little sunken in. So maybe I'm an anomaly but I'd think Skinny people like me can put on 10-15lbs of muscle without much trouble(physically, obvious there is still hard work involved and a lot of eating). I for one doubt Will Smith has ever taken PEDS...Maybe I'm being naive but If one guy believes in hard work it's him.

You're about the same height as me, maybe slightly taller and I can go up 210lbs. I was that weight about 2 months ago, i'm about 190lb now and look in healthy shape. I have broad shoulders and generally a broad physique every where. Every one is built differently, everyone holds their weight differently.

[Bullrush]

Well Africans don't eat as much meat as we do in the first world. They also don't eat enough and don't get enough nutrients in their food. You put their elite on the diet of an American with American training methods, they'll be in top shape too.

LMAO dude shut up with your nutrients broscience horse****. No amount of food or training is gonna make you look like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Mike Tyson. And don't give me your genetics bull**** either. It didnt work with Schwarzenegger so stop it. Tyson, Holyfield, Arnold, all those freaks used roids / PED's, what the **** are you arguing for? They admitted it!

[- Ram Raid -]

I had a couple of friends like that back in the neighborhood, 14-15 years old and all they had to do was look at weights and their muscles grow. They were just already like that. A lot of people on this forum really can't grasp genetics. There's people that with 4-8 weeks of body building, and a **** diet with junk food will become beasts, and others with inferior genetics can work out the same, and have an even better diet for whole a year and not get anywhere near the same results person A saw in 8 weeks

This is the thing. My uncle has the look of a dead cert steroid user. He's never touched them in his life. At the moment he goes to the gym and does high repetition weights. No heavy stuff (by his standards). He looks like a bulky Hugh Jackman when he's playing Wolverine. My brother in law stopped doing heavy weights 'cause he'd become tired of people asking him if he was taking steroids because of how fast he gains muscle. My best friend only has to diet to get a six pack that most people couldn't get with all the abdominal exercises in the world.

In a similar vein I've never seen what the big deal is with stamina based fitness. If the three aforementioned people ran relay I'd still outdistance them with ease. My stamina goes through the roof in a short space of time but build muscle at a rate that they do? I don't even think I could if I was taking steroids myself.

With Tyson, I don't see it. Its possible when he was younger but if that was the case then he'd have no reluctance in taking them when he was older and the performances just aren't there. What some people are losing site of on this one is that athletes (unlike body builders) aren't taking banned substances for aesthetic reasons. Tyson's rise was meteoric but it was consistent, as was his decline. His performances weren't erratic. He was young, powerful and explosive and then it went. Intimidation made up the short fall so few noticed at the time how much he'd declined.

PED users often pull off extraordinary feats, particularly at points in their careers where you wouldn't expect it. Let's not forget that Tyson was prodigious in the ring. Had that have been coupled with PED use his career would have been more fulfilled.

[hayZ]

LMAO dude shut up with your nutrients broscience horse****. No amount of food or training is gonna make you look like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Mike Tyson. And don't give me your genetics bull**** either. It didnt work with Schwarzenegger so stop it. Tyson, Holyfield, Arnold, all those freaks used roids / PED's, what the **** are you arguing for? They admitted it!

Oh of course, we all know the history of competitive bodybuilding and steroid use.

When it comes to physiques, number 1 is GENETICS. Second is diet, third is steroids. You always get exceptions and freaks.

I'm not saying Tyson didn't do roids, he most likely did. We all know Arnold did. Both Tyson and Arnold had excellent genetics, doesn't matter how much roids you do, if you have terrible muscle insertions, terrible diet and terrible work ethic you aren't going to look like them.

[Bullrush]

Oh of course, we all know the history of competitive bodybuilding and steroid use.

When it comes to physiques, number 1 is GENETICS. Second is diet, third is steroids. You always get exceptions and freaks.

I'm not saying Tyson didn't do roids, he most likely did. We all know Arnold did. Both Tyson and Arnold had excellent genetics, doesn't matter how much roids you do, if you have terrible muscle insertions, terrible diet and terrible work ethic you aren't going to look like them.

How does one measure excellent genetics? Where is the evidence? What studies actually support your theory? Typical broscience bull****. I'm sure you'll next tell me that some people can eat anything they want without gaining weight because of their metabolism. Right?

[Adonis Creed]

How does one measure excellent genetics? Where is the evidence? What studies actually support your theory? Typical broscience bull****. I'm sure you'll next tell me that some people can eat anything they want without gaining weight because of their metabolism. Right?

Yea a lot of people can eat whatever they want up to a certain point in their life but eventually it'll catch up to you if you keep doing it. You can't downplay genetics look at Shaqs son, Dwade son,LeBrons son for example. Genetics is a foundation and if you put in the work like Tyson or the kids i mentioned you get the most out of it

[SthPaw]

genetics


he woke up like that literally, look at his teen pics

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Precisely...Tyson was a huge built guy even when he was a kid. He was literally one in a million in terms of how his genetics gave him that build in the first place. Combine that fact with all he did was train and train and train under Cus as he reached his mid teens, it stands to perfect reasoning why Tyson looked how he did once he became a full grown man.

[GTTofAK]

Genetics does have something to do with it obviously.. But Tyson admitted he himself was on some PEDS, he said most athletes are anyway

Yeah he was a big fan of cheque drops, mibolerone an oral anabolic steroid.

But he also has elite gentic potential. You can take all the AAS you want unless you are in the top 1% genetically you will not look like that. He was born with a huge ratio of fast twitch / slow twitch fiber which cannot be changed no matter what you do. That is why he is so naturally big but also gases easily.

[SouthPawHitman]

Steroids. Lots and lots of steroids.

[Bullrush]

Yea a lot of people can eat whatever they want up to a certain point in their life but eventually it'll catch up to you if you keep doing it. You can't downplay genetics look at Shaqs son, Dwade son,LeBrons son for example. Genetics is a foundation and if you put in the work like Tyson or the kids i mentioned you get the most out of it

Dude get some facts. You have a lot of catching up to do.