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  • #11
    Originally posted by kiDynamite92 View Post
    The same reason why Golovkin won't fight Canelo at 155 lbs - it's fuucking ******ed.
    Are you ****** or you just play out to be this dumb?
    Canelo and GGG are champions in the same division, Ward and GGG were not. GGG is mandatory to Canelo, Ward and GGG werent mandated by anyone.
    GGG and Canelo are of the same size, Ward and GGG are not.

    YDKSAB, you are just another race supremacist.

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    • #12
      Golovkin 'respects the sport' and doesn't do catchweights, why offer one to Ward?

      He was also willing to go to 168 and 172 for Chavez and Froch, but only 164 for Ward, why's that?

      Ward has just gone up a division to face Kovalev, a more difficult fight.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
        Where and what exactly in that video debunks anything I said? Bloody fanboy you are.
        Why the hell would Ward care if people create tension and problems between him and Floyd? If he really didn't want any tension, he would of hoped back off his pick that Guerrero would beat Floyd, he didn't.

        If Ward was so worried about public perception, he wouldn't be ripping GGG and his team the way he does knowing how they are Boxings new love child.

        Fact of the matter is, he ended all that noise about fighting Floyd right here.

        Back on topic, punk move by GGG and his team.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Razcal26 View Post
          Why the hell would Ward care if people create tension and problems between him and Floyd? If he really didn't want any tension, he would of hoped back off his pick that Guerrero would beat Floyd, he didn't.

          If Ward was so worried about public perception, he wouldn't be ripping GGG and his team the way he does knowing how they are Boxings new love child.

          Fact of the matter is, he ended all that noise about fighting Floyd right here.

          Back on topic, punk move by GGG and his team.
          This is on video, but I couldn't find it.
          The last couple of days, Floyd made some comments about me that were false and that I disagree with. I responded the way I responded and that was pretty much the end of it. Yesterday, I answered a question/comment from a writer about the possibility of me and Floyd ever fighting despite our weight difference and size difference. I answered the question and said I would be willing to fight Floyd at 160 if that fight ever came about. My response was intercepted by certain websites. They took what I said and put it on their website with misleading headlines about me calling out Floyd Mayweather.

          I've been in boxing a long time and rule number 1 is you don't call somebody out that's three weight classes lower than you. You also don't call somebody out who has a fight coming up, and I'm not in a position to call anybody out right now because I'm rehabbing my shoulder. I'm not a guy that says things for shock value or says things to get headlines. I respected what Floyd has done for the sport before he said what he said and I respect what Floyd has done for our sport after he said what he said. We had a difference and that's what it is. What I'm not going to allow to happen is this thing to escalate and there be some long-standing beef or problem between me and Floyd Mayweather when that's not the case, so it's done. I don't have no problems with Floyd Mayweather. It was squashed the other day. I answered the question and it got blown way out of proportion.
          http://www.fighthype.com/news/article14065.html

          He's a fanboy. He doesn't want no tension. He's being a realist, because even though he would fight Mayweather at 160, he knows Mayweather would never fight at 160, and he doesn't want to push the issue and cause a problem with his boxing love. Like I initially said.
          Last edited by SplitSecond; 05-14-2016, 04:56 AM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
            Golovkin 'respects the sport' and doesn't do catchweights, why offer one to Ward?

            He was also willing to go to 168 and 172 for Chavez and Froch, but only 164 for Ward, why's that?

            Ward has just gone up a division to face Kovalev, a more difficult fight.
            When did he say that he doesn't do catch weights? As I said catch weights are totally logical when two bests of different division want to fight, specially at the middle.
            He respects boxing and wont do catch weights for Canelo because Canelo is the champion in the same division and arguable of the same size if not bigger. Its a totally different thing. You are just another blind hater who feels special to go against what seems to be right and normal for the sake of attention.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by IllegalDeath View Post
              Arent catchweights logical when two guys from different divisions want to fight each other?
              So GGG is the best at 160, Ward is(was) the best at 168. The most logical way out to make this fight was to fight in the middle i.e 164. How is demanding 164 any wrong? Why would Ward deny it?

              Look, at 160 its advantage to Golovkin, at 168 its advantage to Ward, at 164 its at 0 (neutral) with advantage to none, and GGG was confident he could beat Ward at zero point without having any unfair advantages, i.e p4p skill vs skill.
              However, apparently Ward needed an advantage to even consider a fight with Golovkin, its a shame he think he can't beat GGG without having him at a physical disadvantage.

              I know GGG said anyone from 154-168, and he can be considered wrong to demand 164 esp for Ward. Lets assume GGG knew he gets beaten at 168 (with adv to Ward), but then again if he knows he can beat him at neutral weight why didn't Ward think the same?
              Why didn't Ward fight Bute?

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              • #17
                "Why didn't Ward accept to fight GGG at 164?"

                Simple: because Ward already fought Paul Smith at 176 and later said he can't even make 168 anymore...

                Ward calling GGG in 2015 was a complete bluff -- Ward had to cover his stablemate Cotto and he also needed a HBO contract... Thus he tried to lure GGG into a fight deal with 1-2 tune-up before hand (just like he actually did to Kovalev)... Ward ain't ****** at all folks. Not to mention that Ward (who ducked previously GGG) got away by stamping GGG as a "duck" eventually...

                ... and now you wait for him to step into the same ring with Kovalev this year, right?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by IllegalDeath View Post
                  When did he say that he doesn't do catch weights? As I said catch weights are totally logical when two bests of different division want to fight, specially at the middle.
                  He respects boxing and wont do catch weights for Canelo because Canelo is the champion in the same division and arguable of the same size if not bigger. Its a totally different thing. You are just another blind hater who feels special to go against what seems to be right and normal for the sake of attention.
                  Alavrez is gonna unify the middleweight divsion at 155lb's. That would have been an amazing feat. Win a belt at 155, defend at 155, take others belts at 155, lineal, unified, undisputed middleweight champ....at 155.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
                    This is on video, but I couldn't find it.

                    http://www.fighthype.com/news/article14065.html

                    He's a fanboy. He doesn't want no tension. He's being a realist, because even though he would fight Mayweather at 160, he knows Mayweather would never fight at 160, and he doesn't want to push the issue and cause a problem with his boxing love. Again.
                    I love how you pick out pick out the only bits you want to address. What about this bit:

                    Yesterday, I answered a question/comment from a writer about the possibility of me and Floyd ever fighting despite our weight difference and size difference. I answered the question and said I would be willing to fight Floyd at 160 if that fight ever came about. My response was intercepted by certain websites. They took what I said and put it on their website with misleading headlines about me calling out Floyd Mayweather.
                    He basically said that he would fight Floyd if he had the chance, but he never was campaigning for a Floyd fight. He made his comment, addressed it and set the record straight.

                    He ain't fighting Floyd, he made that clear.

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                    • #20
                      Is everything a catchweight with you people? Why didn't Ward force Kovalev to fight at 171 while we're at it?

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