Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I'm Not Ducking Golovkin, When Will He Move Up?

[therealpugilist]

I don't remember Leonard, Hearns, and Duran insisting that Hagler move up and fight Spinks in order for him to fight one of them!

you do realize Mayweather turned pro at 130 and lower and fought 125 in the olympics...with his lean frame, 160 is pushing. hell 154 was pushing and you notice he only fought there for blockbuster type fights

[therealpugilist]

None of those guys were calling out a 40 year old, 20 year pro that's 2 weight divisions below them, that has also been through 5 weight divisions already.

None of those guys said "164 or no fight" either. Those guys also earned their money fights by fighting guys that had pulses too.

dayyum....that was ownage.....got eeeeeem

[richardt]

you do realize Mayweather turned pro at 130 and lower and fought 125 in the olympics...with his lean frame, 160 is pushing. hell 154 was pushing and you notice he only fought there for blockbuster type fights

But that doesn't apply to asking another fighter to move up in weight and back down again to below their fighting weight and it is doubtful any fighter in history has made that demand. It is off the charts as far as boxing demands go.

[Chollo Vista]

But that doesn't apply to asking another fighter to move up in weight and back down again to below their fighting weight and it is doubtful any fighter in history has made that demand. It is off the charts as far as boxing demands go.

Who said GGG had to move up in weight though???

He whoops heavyweights and cruiserweights every training camp since 2012 weighing less than 170. Hell, he even whooped Kovalev's ass who was probably 30 lbs bigger than him.

Theoretically, based off what Abel Sanchez and Tom Loeffler have claimed in various interviews, GGG should be able to whoop Ward's ass @ 175 while weighing 160. He does it to heavyweights and cruiserweights all the time.

They even said GGG dropped Kovalev with a body shot in sparring and had him petrified.

GGG should be able to whoop Ward's ass at 175 all while weighing 160, then move down 6 lbs to fight FMJ as planned.

Now give me your excuse to why you'll kill yourself if he tried it.

[richardt]

Who said GGG had to move up in weight though???

He whoops heavyweights and cruiserweights every training camp since 2012 weighing less than 170. Hell, he even whooped Kovalev's ass who was probably 30 lbs bigger than him.

Theoretically, based off what Abel Sanchez and Tom Loeffler have claimed in various interviews, GGG should be able to whoop Ward's ass @ 175 while weighing 160. He does it to heavyweights and cruiserweights all the time.

They even said GGG dropped Kovalev with a body shot in sparring and had him petrified.

GGG should be able to whoop Ward's ass at 175 all while weighing 160, then move down 6 lbs to fight FMJ as planned.

Now give me your excuse to why you'll kill yourself if he tried it.

Don't believe for one second that GGG would not put on some weight going up to fight a light heavyweight. I have at least $500 as a bet to you that he would weigh in well over 160......probably between 166 and 170. Almost every single fighter in history has added pounds when fighting even a division higher, let alone two. The numbers are in my favor of winning the $500. You game? That's assuming he moves up per Floyd's demands or on his own.

[Chollo Vista]

Here's Sanchez on how GGG whooped Kovalev while weighing 160. He even said Kovalev was afraid of him, but you're telling me GGG can't whoop Ward at 175 while weighing 160 or 166?




Abel says GGG has been sparring cruiserweights and heavyweights since 2012

http://www.livefight.com/news.php?ne...14&y=2012&m=08

"He's sparring with cruiserweights and heavyweights. I can't spar him with junior middleweights and middleweights."


So theoretically, he can whoop Kovalev as a MW, but can't whoop Ward as a Middleweight?

[Chollo Vista]

Don't believe for one second that GGG would not put on some weight going up to fight a light heavyweight. I have at least $500 as a bet to you that he would weigh in well over 160......probably between 166 and 170. Almost every single fighter in history has added pounds when fighting even a division higher, let alone two. The numbers are in my favor of winning the $500. You game? That's assuming he moves up per Floyd's demands or on his own.

Who fault is that? That's his own damn fault if he decides to put on 6-10 pounds to fight Ward when it's documented that he whoops men that outweigh him by 40-60 pounds; that's not even counting big Kovalev.

Listen, I gave you the blueprint to how he can earn 20-30 mil total in his next two fights against Ward this summer and FMJ next Spring.

You say he has to move up in weight. I say bullschit. Abel Sanchez and Tom Loeffler both say he whooped Kovalev, cruiserweights and heavyweights on a regular basis. Don't come talking to me about 6 damn pounds.

[richardt]

Who fault is that? That's his own damn fault if he decides to put on 6-10 pounds to fight Ward when it's documented that he whoops men that outweigh him by 40-60 pounds; that's not even counting big Kovalev.

Listen, I gave you the blueprint to how he can earn 20-30 mil total in his next two fights against Ward this summer and FMJ next Spring.

You say he has to move up in weight. I say bullschit. Abel Sanchez and Tom Loeffler both say he whooped Kovalev, cruiserweights and heavyweights on a regular basis. Don't come talking to me about 6 damn pounds.

The number of fighters that move up with added weight as opposed to those who do not add weight while moving up is overwhelming!! What I said is what history has clearly indicated far more often than not. I will continue this debate with the putting up of money when GGG decides to move up. Do you take my bet or not? Simple question!

[Chollo Vista]

The number of fighters that move up with added weight as opposed to those who do not add weight while moving up is overwhelming!! What I said is what history has clearly indicated far more often than not. I will continue this debate with the putting up of money when GGG decides to move up. Do you take my bet or not? Simple question!

I don't give a damn about history or what other fighters have done. I'm talking about Gennady Golovkin, not anyone else.

All I hear is excuses from you as to why GGG can't fight Ward followed by FMJ.

Why would I bet you on what another man wants/decides to weigh?

I posted factual evidence of GGG supposedly beating up on CW's, HW's and Kovalev while weighing significantly less. You expect me to bet you on what GGG will decide to weigh against Ward knowing that he'll have to lose at least 6 lbs following the fight against Ward? That's a ****** bet and that's what you call a fallacy of false dilemma.

No, that's what you want GGG to do. I want GGG to do the same thing Abel Sanchez has claimed he's been doing since 2012.

You're suicidal at the thought of him actually doing it.

[richardt]

I don't give a damn about history or what other fighters have done. I'm talking about Gennady Golovkin, not anyone else.

All I hear is excuses from you as to why GGG can't fight Ward followed by FMJ.

Why would I bet you on what another man wants/decides to weigh?

I posted factual evidence of GGG supposedly beating up on CW's, HW's and Kovalev while weighing significantly less. You expect me to bet you on what GGG will decide to weigh against Ward knowing that he'll have to lose at least 6 lbs following the fight against Ward? That's a ****** bet and that's what you call a fallacy of false dilemma.

No, that's what you want GGG to do. I want GGG to do the same thing Abel Sanchez has claimed he's been doing since 2012.

You're suicidal at the thought of him actually doing it.

I don't agree with you and the numbers over the last 60 do not agree with you either. Now if you want to continue an endless debate, I suggest you place a bet with me or simply discontinue this discussion which is going nowhere. I will speak to further discussions on this with money and nothing else. Then we will see who is right. Put your money where your mouth is, otherwise this discussion is over. GGG WILL gain some pounds if he moves up and I will bet money on it. That's my statement and challenge!