Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I'm Not Ducking Golovkin, When Will He Move Up?

[HeroBando]

Floyd has never been in the upper 150s thats just pure BS , the boys sure like speculation and exaggeration when it suits the agenda .

Case in point lol

[Chollo Vista]

Cholla let me ask you a question ..why are you so adamant they golovkin should move up in weight ? Really be honest ok

Because this is what's being asked and it's not like it's never been asked of fighters before in order to make fights.

Hagler made concessions for SRL

Pac made concessions for DLH

FMJ made concessions for DLH

Jose Napoles made concessions for Monzon

Hopkins made concessions for Tarver

Canelo made concessions for FMJ

Margarito made concessions for Pac

Wright made concessions for Hopkins

Hopkins made concessions for Pavlik

Whitaker made concessions for Chavez

McClarnin and Pancho Villa made concessions

Cotto made concessions for Pac

Geale made concessions for Cotto

It's not too much to ask for GGG to make at least one concession?

[Chollo Vista]

Case in point lol

How many pounds did Marquez go up in weight to make the Mayweather fight?

How many pounds did Pac go up in weight to make the DLH fight?

Why can't GGG go up 8 pounds to 168 to fight Ward or Kovalev at 175?

[richardt]

Sure man.

We can talk all day about this. Fact of the matter is, unless GGG fights Ward, however he decides to do it, there's no Mayweather fight. Simple as that. That's just the facts of the matter.

I've given countless ways for it to happen. It's not impossible.

If you want to kill yourself over the possibility of it happening or the thought of it, then be my guest.

More suicide talk. You need help, get some help. And "the fact of the matter" doesn't count regarding GGG fighting Ward to get a fight with Floyd, or did you forget that Floyd told Pac he had to beat Bradley and JMM to get a fight with him?

[Sweet_Science2]

Sorry but do you really think anyone is dumb enough to believe that a hater will not find something else to hate a fighter for, especially if he beats one of their favorite fighters? Lets be clear about one thing, a hater does not change his heart when it is dead set. I have been here for years to witness this. Let me give you an example. Many haters thought Mayweather was fighting Berto instead of Guerrero and they threw a fit. They said they will respect Floyd if he fights Guerrero and when he did they still hated him. Many said that they will FINALLY respect Floyd if he fights the unbeaten powerhouse Canelo and even said they would come on and pretty much praise Floyd. What did they do? They continued hating Floyd and made excuses. Same exact thing for many other fighters. Haters want to see a fighter beat and the only way they can have that thrill is if he fights fighters who can beat him. That's their agenda and it has nothing to do with FINALLY respecting the fighter for stepping up...they want to see him beat, period. This is the way it has been on these boards for ages and it is not going to change. I have seen the bias LOUD AND CLEAR and I am stuck in the middle because I appreciate all types of fighters! Can you HONESTLY say you have NEVER rooted for a fighter based on race, color, or nationality???? I absolutely can!!! You don't have to answer that question if you don't want to. I don't want a disingenuous answer. I'd rather have no answer.

I'm hater until proven guilty. I originally didn't like Keith Thurman, or Conor McGregor, or Kobe Bryant. I thought they were all over rated. Once Shaq left and Kobe kept still performing at a hi-level he turned me from a "hater" to a fan. When Conor was talking smack last year. I didn't think he had done shyt to be talking. But after watching a couple of fights I started really liking him and was mad when he lost to Nate Diaz. Keith Thurman was all hype to me. He won some fights and stayed consistant and now he is fighting Porter so I have nothing but love for him.

If ggg actually beat Ward, and started beating Dirrell, And DeGeale I would have nothing but respect for him. I'm not a person who doesn't give proper respect. People hate Floyd like no tomorrow I know that. Have I rooted for a fighter based on race? Yes when I feel that fighter is being unfairly treated. I actually originally didn't like Floyd. When I seen how racists the media and fans were to him it made me show Love. I wish racism didn't exist in this sport at all.

I actually like all type of fighters. I like Canelo, and Santa Cruz. Tyson Furry is great for the sport. If ggg were to fight Ward and win he gets all the love. Hell if he fights Lara or Canelo I will show him Love and wins you can sig this right now.

[The plunger man]

You keep saying that Hagler vs Hearns was 12 rounds. I know this, but that doesn't mean that Hagler vs Leonard had to be 12 rounds also. No, Hagler agreed to 12 rounds. Had they picked, the fight could've been 15 rounds. But you tried to make it seem like this wasn't possible, when it was.

Regarding the gloves, you keep making is seem like Hagler didn't make concessions for the gloves when he did. No matter how you try to cut it, there was an agreement on the gloves and it was SRL that dictated that agreement.

Hagler also conceded to the ring size. Were all MW's fighting in 20x20 rings?

The gloves are same size period 10oz ..no advantage to hagler..no extra padding ok and same power ......secondly WBC world title fight hagler vs leonard was and that was the only world title belt up for grabs......if it they did agree on 15 rounds then it would not have been sanctioned for the world title... Ok so hagler gave the nod for 12 rounds ...what advantage has leonard got over hagler then ? Tell me .
The only thing what was in leonard slight favour was it was 20x20 ring....but that's not an advantage considering hagler has no problem cutting the ring off with hearns

[The plunger man]

Because this is what's being asked and it's not like it's never been asked of fighters before in order to make fights.

Hagler made concessions for SRL

Pac made concessions for DLH

FMJ made concessions for DLH

Jose Napoles made concessions for Monzon

Hopkins made concessions for Tarver

Canelo made concessions for FMJ

Margarito made concessions for Pac

Wright made concessions for Hopkins

Hopkins made concessions for Pavlik

Whitaker made concessions for Chavez

McClarnin and Pancho Villa made concessions

Cotto made concessions for Pac

Geale made concessions for Cotto

It's not too much to ask for GGG to make at least one concession?

Who's asking it ? You ? ... So you don't think a fighter that wants to become undisputed middlweight champion and claim all the belt should do that ? And him waiting for his mandatory for 2 years now should just say **** it ok I'll forget what I really want to do and just move up ?
Hagler did it for 7 years what your moaning about golovkin doing the same

[richardt]

I'm hater until proven guilty. I originally didn't like Keith Thurman, or Conor McGregor, or Kobe Bryant. I thought they were all over rated. Once Shaq left and Kobe kept still performing at a hi-level he turned me from a "hater" to a fan. When Conor was talking smack last year. I didn't think he had done shyt to be talking. But after watching a couple of fights I started really liking him and was mad when he lost to Nate Diaz. Keith Thurman was all hype to me. He won some fights and stayed consistant and now he is fighting Porter so I have nothing but love for him.

If ggg actually beat Ward, and started beating Dirrell, And DeGeale I would have nothing but respect for him. I'm not a person who doesn't give proper respect. People hate Floyd like no tomorrow I know that. Have I rooted for a fighter based on race? Yes when I feel that fighter is being unfairly treated. I actually originally didn't like Floyd. When I seen how racists the media and fans were to him it made me show Love. I wish racism didn't exist in this sport at all.

I actually like all type of fighters. I like Canelo, and Santa Cruz. Tyson Furry is great for the sport. If ggg were to fight Ward and win he gets all the love. Hell if he fights Lara or Canelo I will show him Love and wins you can sig this right now.

Fair enough, I take you at your word and wont question your word.

[Chollo Vista]

Ok so hagler gave the nod for 12 rounds ...what advantage has leonard got over hagler then ? Tell me

What advantage did SRL have with a 12 round fight as compared to a 15 round fight?

The same advantage Hearns would've had over SRL if their fight was 12 rounds instead of 15 rounds. If SRL vs Hearns is 12 rounds, Hearns wins. Since it was 15, he got KO'd.

This is common sense.

Hell, why was the rule changed from 15 to 12 if there weren't issues with going 15 rounds?

Plus Hagler is a notoriously slow starter which would play in SRL's favor for a shorter fight.

[HeroBando]

How many pounds did Marquez go up in weight to make the Mayweather fight?

How many pounds did Pac go up in weight to make the DLH fights?

Why can't GGG go up 8 pounds to 168 to fight Ward or Kovalev at 175?

Per Floyd and his fans, there was barely a difference fight night. Oscar was also making a big weight concession and was far from p4p even at 154. Both of these had smaller guys as remote B siders, going up for much bigger star, quite different.

BTW if Floyd was upper 50ies way back, that Ggg fight looks like less of a size mismatch. If they cap it at 168, it's 10lb difference fight night max.