Comments Thread For: Arum on Crawford-Postol: Anything Over 100K Buys, I'd Be Happy

[Dinamita 03]

50 is not bad for this fight. The two top fighters in the division facing off, I'll definitely be buying this fight.

[hitking]

It's a fight between the top guys in their weight class. I'll be buying the PPV.

If we as boxing fans claim that we want the best to fight the best then we should support the promoters when they actually do it.

This is IT in a nutshell. Anyone financially able that doesn't order this fight isn't a fight fan.

[Bronx2245]

I think Arum had to be told something to keep him with HBO. If HBO doesn't increase the budget that really sucks. I don't want to have to pay $49.99 for fights like Postol/Crawford or Loma/Walters that should be headlining a BAD or WCB card.

At least Thurman vs. Porter is free! Hopelly LSC vs. Frampton is free also. And then there's May 21st, Charlo Bros. and Lara, all free. Let's just hope we keeping good free ones, so we're not paying for fights!

[Deevel916]

This is IT in a nutshell. Anyone financially able that doesn't order this fight isn't a fight fan.

I'm a fight fan. I'm not ordering this fight. Reason being?....This should be a non-ppv fight, but because of budget restrictions they had to move it to a ppv platform.

Good fight but it doesnt excite me enough to pay $50 for.

[The Big Dunn]

At least Thurman vs. Porter is free! Hopelly LSC vs. Frampton is free also. And then there's May 21st, Charlo Bros. and Lara, all free. Let's just hope we keeping good free ones, so we're not paying for fights!

True, but I want to see things change for the better across the board.

[boxingitis]

Lucas vs Danny Garcia was an undercard fight, why is this main PPV fight?

[Boxtime]

$50 per PPV Buy
100,000 Buys = $5,000,000 Revenue from the PPV

+$2 Million for all the sponsorship of the fight, which is very generous (Tecate Etc)

That takes you to $7 Million in Revenue.

10,000 seats @ Average of $200 per seat = $ 2 Million

That takes you to $ 9 Million in Revenue

Comcast, DirecTV, Time Warner etc charge a flat fee of %20 on PPV Buys.
That takes you down to $8 Million dollars.

MGM don't charge for the venue, if they believe that they makes the booking cost $400,000 back. So lets just say that the Venue is free.

$8 Million Dollars to share between HBO, Top Rank, Elite Promotion, Crawford and Postol. Add the sanctioning fee's of the WBC and WBO, and the money to pay the Nevada Commision.

Crawford will be getting $1.5 Million Dollars at max, then add federal and state taxes, leaves Crawford with $800,000.

LOL - Crawford is boxings next superstar, and he is getting paid pennies!

[bojangles1987]

I know people are ****ting on this being a PPV fight, but if anything should be PPV, shouldn't fights between the two best fighters in a division qualify? You have to reward these guys for this risk and stop rewarding **** mismatches like Alvarez/Khan.

[Eff Pandas]

HBO has the money. The just don't care about boxing anymore.

You're preaching to the choir here. I'm definitely of the opinion HBO is looking to get out of the boxing business or drastically change their boxing structure at some point within the next 5-10yrs, but I'm hoping I'm wrong.

But this being on PPV sets a bad precedent. This is not a PPV level fight.

People love saying "this isn't a PPV fight", but I don't think people understand what a PPV fight even is. And its sorta like saying this isn't a movie theater film. Well if the people who are putting on the fight or putting the movie in theaters feel like it'll make more money being on PPV & put in theaters than if it isn't then its a PPV or theater caliber fight or film.

Its not as complicated as people make it out to be. There doesn't need to be a certain number of buys or sales made. There doesn't need to be a certain name value on it. It only needs to be that there are more income than expenses at the end of the day. And in this case if Arum is saying he's happy at 100k my assumption is that gets him breakeven or more likely profitable.

[killakali]

Sounded more like he was talking about that Crawford shouldn't be in this position next year than HBO's boxing budget is increasing to me, but mainly it didn't seem 100% clear that he meant the HBO budget will increase. He coulda been implying a lot of things besides the budget is getting increased. Maybe some guys are getting dropped. I think they will need to clean house a lil or have 4-5 PPV's a year minimum if they don't up the budget.

That said it'd be nice if HBO quit dropping the HBO boxing budget so I'm rooting for your take to be the right take. The budget has been dropping for 2 decades give or take & seemingly can't go down much further.

it sounds like he said next year the budget will be bigger but we don't know how much bigger