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  • #41
    Shrewd tactics by Haye! Hearn said he’d rather Joshua face Fury before Haye because Fury isn’t heavy handed. Fury has all the belts and will never agree to fight Haye. So if Joshua fights Fury and wins, that opens up a huge (and competitive) fight for all of the belts between Joshua & Haye. Joshua vs Fury is Haye’s only opportunity to unify. Somehow, after years of inactivity and lacklustre fights, Haye is manoeuvring himself back into contention… without placing himself in much danger.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by kafkod View Post
      I'm shocked to see a British boxing fan referring to the man who finally ended the reign of the most dominant HW champion in boxing history as "an embarrassment to my country"

      That, and you constantly talking about how AJ beat Fury up in sparring when he was an amateur - IT NEVER HAPPENED - prevents me from taking anything you say about Fury and AJ seriously.

      We all know why Haye is talking such utter shite on the subject - talking utter shite is just what Haye does - but you seem to come unhinged whenever you even think about this match-up!

      And thinking about it, and talking shite about it, is all you are going to be able to do for at least another 2 years, because no way is Hearn going risk putting AJ up against Fury either this year or the next.
      You actually think that....Hearn will take that fight in a heartbeat and Joshua would as well.....the embarrassment of what I see when fury lifts up his shirt and shows how grotesquely overweight he is and yet he suppose to be a top athlete...yes it's a f@ckin embarrassment as a boxer and also seeing a fellow Brit do that...so yeah I'm right..you don't think that's embarrassing, .secondly it did happen it's on record by fury and it's recorded and it was also before even Joshua won Olympic or a a title so fury had nothing to gain by saying it....Joshua will take the fight with fury tomorrow if he could it's more like fury needs to get his head in order because it's up down like a whores pair of knickers.. I think it's fury who won't take the fight with Joshua son not the other way round...we can also go back on your predictions of Joshua vs Martin to see far off you were, ill also wager with you that joshau gos straight for fury if not end of this year but summer next year at the latest
      Last edited by The plunger man; 05-11-2016, 11:39 AM.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Kilrain View Post
        I'm sure this article was posted like 2 weeks ago?

        Anyway, not surprising to hear Haye say this as he's a massive fan of Joshua and despises Fury.

        For my money, Fury beats AJ now. Fury is incredibly awkward, bigger than AJ, much better jab and footwork and more experience. We haven't really seen any evidence of AJ having an inside game yet, Fury's inside game is surprisingly good for a big man. Of course, the possibility exists for AJ to catch Fury early and we've seen that he's a good finisher. But I see Fury beating him on points at this stage. Joshua is a hell of a prospect but he's very mechanical and somewhat predictable in his rhythm, Fury is very unpredictable by comparison. UD for Fury in a good fight.
        This.

        I can't fathom why anyone would be so certain or convinced AJ has Fury's number, yes of course he can knock him but who's to say he could even land a glove on the guy, even with his mediocre power I believe Fury could finish AJ early on say the 2-3 round. Whyte had AJ on ***** Street doing a funny little jig, Fury if he threw caution to the wind and engaged would hit this dude at will and from what we've seen, the moderate power of Fury would be more than enough to hurt AJ.

        AJ is the like heavyweight version of GGG, his record is inflated and he has fought absolute nobodies. I don't carried away by hype, until AJ beats a top contender like Pulev, Ortiz, Jennings, Wilder or Parker the jury is out, until then all this nonsense he'd beat Klitschko or Fury is just laughable. Joshua needs step up from facing these goons he has to date, facing Breazeale is a step backwards from Martin and Whyte, a pathetic one at that no doubt he'll sell the arena out though and find another couple of no hopers before his mandatory challenge.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
          You actually think that....Hearn will take that fight in a heartbeat and Joshua would as well.....the embarrassment of what I see when fury lifts up his shirt and shows how grotesquely overweight he is and yet he suppose to be a top athlete...yes it's a f@ckin embarrassment as a boxer and also seeing a fellow Brit do that...so yeah I'm right..you don't think that's embarrassing, .secondly it did happen it's on record by fury and it's recorded and it was also before even Joshua won Olympic or a a title so fury had nothing to gain by saying it....Joshua will take the fight with fury tomorrow if he could it's more like fury needs to get his head in order because it's up down like a whores pair of knickers.. I think it's fury who won't take the fight with Joshua son not the other way round...we can also go back on your predictions of Joshua vs Martin to see far off you were, ill also wager with you that joshau gos straight for fury if not end of this year but summer next year at the latest
          I've told you where that crazy story of AJ supposedly beating up Fury came from - it came from an interview by Fury himself, and he was clearly joking when he said it. If you say it was recorded then post the video here and back that up. I'm telling you it never happened.

          And I didn't make any predictions about AJ vs Martin. I didn't know enough about how good Martin was to be able to do that.

          I guess you predicted that AJ would walk through Martin and KO him easily, yeah? And you didn't have any idea how good Martin was either, so that could only have been based on blind faith and hero-worship of AJ, the same as your opinion on how easily he would beat Fury!

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Freedom2016 View Post
            You'll see in the rematch what happens when Wladimir opens up and double jabs and works his way inside and roughs Dyson up on the inside.
            Wlad only needs to do what he did in the twelth round of their last fight in maybe 3 or 4 rounds of the second fight and he'll stop Tyson.

            Wlad went on the offense in that round and look what happened, had Fury on shaky legs and hanging on for dear life. That guy aint got no chin, his lucky Wlad was a terrified ***** for most of their first fight.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by denium View Post
              lmfao where to start, first of all, learn to use a paragraph.

              Fury is bigger than Joshua, it doesn't matter how you try and spin it, Fury is the taller man with the bigger reach, that's a fact.

              Fury won't clown around in the ring against Joshua, he will about business. Fury clowned Wlad because he could, he had him completely figured out.

              As for Fury not being conditioned enough, he has the best engine in the division and is a proven 12 round fighter. Joshua was blowing out of his arse after a few rounds against Whyte. Fury is the fitter man with the superior conditioning, facts.

              As for Fury's chin, in his last fight he took some clean blows off a bigger puncher than Joshua and was fine. Fury's bad chin is a myth, the two knockdowns against USS & Pajik were more down to balance and bad footwork, and Fury wasn't hurt.

              Yes, Joshua is a bigger name than Fury and sells more tickets, and what? Fury still beats him.

              You're analysis basically consists of "Joshua will knock Fury out". YDSAB, same with that moron Red Cyclone or Freedom2016 or whatever user he's ripping off this time.
              So you're admitting Fury has bad footwork?

              I'd suggest you watch the seventh round against Whyte and then see if you have the nerve to come here and tell us that Joshua doesn't have an engine.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                I've told you where that crazy story of AJ supposedly beating up Fury came from - it came from an interview by Fury himself, and he was clearly joking when he said it. If you say it was recorded then post the video here and back that up. I'm telling you it never happened.

                And I didn't make any predictions about AJ vs Martin. I didn't know enough about how good Martin was to be able to do that.

                I guess you predicted that AJ would walk through Martin and KO him easily, yeah? And you didn't have any idea how good Martin was either, so that could only have been based on blind faith and hero-worship of AJ, the same as your opinion on how easily he would beat Fury!
                It's not hero worship at all son..I've followed boxing a lot longer than you and also boxed to quite a high standard...now if there is any worshiping going on its through the fury fan club...ur not quite so bad as Denium and a few others but your stiill way out on how good you think fury is....up to the klitchcko fight he literally faced nobody and his most notable win was against a slow ponderous Chisora and a 50lb outweighed cunningham....now I would understand if fury had beaten klitchcko like the way Lloyd honeyghan did over Donald curry or lewis over razor ruddock but he didn't ...now my brother in law went to Germany to watch that fight and said it was the most terrible boxing match he has ever seen and it was embarrassing performance by both fighters....the reason why predict AJ will be the best is because he has not got out of second gear and still walked through every opponent and that includes fighers who tyson fury could not put away...he's accurate and straight punching heavyweight who throws fast combinations that once they land they finish you, he has a killer instinct i
                Of course there will be some fighters who will in the end take Joshua's best and either be standing up at the end or even beating him but it will take somebody with a bit more fire power and chin than tyson fury..he has everything that a good heavyweight champion should have and will only get better.....he's also athletic and fit as a fiddle and your talk about speed of foot well he runs the 100 metres in just over 11 secs so I'm pretty sure he'll catch up to tyson fury and finish him when he sees the opportunity ...the person who bes joshua is the fighter that can take his best shot and then come back strong......fury is a terrible heavyweight champion and I know he gets knocked out as soon as he fights joshua or even wilder

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
                  This.

                  I can't fathom why anyone would be so certain or convinced AJ has Fury's number, yes of course he can knock him but who's to say he could even land a glove on the guy, even with his mediocre power I believe Fury could finish AJ early on say the 2-3 round. Whyte had AJ on ***** Street doing a funny little jig, Fury if he threw caution to the wind and engaged would hit this dude at will and from what we've seen, the moderate power of Fury would be more than enough to hurt AJ.

                  AJ is the like heavyweight version of GGG, his record is inflated and he has fought absolute nobodies. I don't carried away by hype, until AJ beats a top contender like Pulev, Ortiz, Jennings, Wilder or Parker the jury is out, until then all this nonsense he'd beat Klitschko or Fury is just laughable. Joshua needs step up from facing these goons he has to date, facing Breazeale is a step backwards from Martin and Whyte, a pathetic one at that no doubt he'll sell the arena out though and find another couple of no hopers before his mandatory challenge.
                  Your on drugs lol

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
                    Your on drugs lol
                    You're one of the worst excuses for an heavyweight boxing fan I've ever come across on here, suddenly you've sprang from nowhere proclaiming a novice to have the legitimate champion's number because he's showcased an ability to bowl absolute nobodies over with power alone and not a hint of skill to his work yet, I'm perplexed, I really am.

                    You're analysis' are cringe, it's just blind dislike and fanboyism, I can relate to the dislike of Fury, genuinely, the fan boy hype train stuff you're coming out with though ! Really ? I'd be inclined to think you were trolling but I can tell you're not, you're really hung up on this Joshua kid like you're one of those casual UK soccer fans who thinks Froch and Hatton were the best ever.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
                      It's not hero worship at all son..I've followed boxing a lot longer than you and also boxed to quite a high standard...now if there is any worshiping going on its through the fury fan club...ur not quite so bad as Denium and a few others but your stiill way out on how good you think fury is....up to the klitchcko fight he literally faced nobody and his most notable win was against a slow ponderous Chisora and a 50lb outweighed cunningham....now I would understand if fury had beaten klitchcko like the way Lloyd honeyghan did over Donald curry or lewis over razor ruddock but he didn't ...now my brother in law went to Germany to watch that fight and said it was the most terrible boxing match he has ever seen and it was embarrassing performance by both fighters....the reason why predict AJ will be the best is because he has not got out of second gear and still walked through every opponent and that includes fighers who tyson fury could not put away...he's accurate and straight punching heavyweight who throws fast combinations that once they land they finish you, he has a killer instinct i
                      Of course there will be some fighters who will in the end take Joshua's best and either be standing up at the end or even beating him but it will take somebody with a bit more fire power and chin than tyson fury..he has everything that a good heavyweight champion should have and will only get better.....he's also athletic and fit as a fiddle and your talk about speed of foot well he runs the 100 metres in just over 11 secs so I'm pretty sure he'll catch up to tyson fury and finish him when he sees the opportunity ...the person who bes joshua is the fighter that can take his best shot and then come back strong......fury is a terrible heavyweight champion and I know he gets knocked out as soon as he fights joshua or even wilder
                      Steve, with the greatest respect, you are talking rubbish there. There is a lot more to boxing than who can take the other man's punches and still be standing at the end. Like who can make the the other man's punches miss, or keep moving, shifting and jabbing so he can't get set to throw them.

                      Do you think Fury would stand tall and stationary in front of AJ, waiting to see what he had, like Martin did?

                      Do you think he would turtle up, flat footed, like Johnson?

                      Or charge forward trying to land a KO punch like Whyte?

                      You call AJ the best HW in the world for KOing a journeyman, pushing 40 (Johnson) plus 2 novices - Martin and Whyte, but belittle Fury's wins over Chisora, Cunningham and - this one I can hardly believe - Wlad Klitschko - because he didn't them KTTFO inside 3 rounds?

                      Then you say that AJ would catch up with Fury because he can run the 100m in 11 secs!
                      Last edited by kafkod; 05-11-2016, 02:28 PM.

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