Comments Thread For: David Haye: I Don't Give Tyson Fury a Shot in Hell of Beating Joshua

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Ha. Sorry about only 3 posts. Been a fight fan for many many years. Just enjoy the discussion. Thanks for noticing.

Welcome to NSB bro.

[The plunger man]

Joshua/Murray eh? That's a new one on me. Is that Bill Murray or Anne Murray? Cuz I doubt either would stand a chance.

Thank my iPad and predicted text for that but we both know what your crazy predictions were for the joshau-Martin and look how that turned out...so again you're credibility and forecasts on how fights turn out are not very poor...next

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Thank my iPad and predicted text for that but we both know what your crazy predictions were for the joshau-Martin and look how that turned out...so again you're credibility and forecasts on how fights turn out are not very poor...next

Nobody had seen Martin before Glazkov other than footage on YouTube against some fat bouncers, he was an unknown.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Joshua/Murray eh? That's a new one on me. Is that Bill Murray or Anne Murray? Cuz I doubt either would stand a chance.

Thank my iPad and predicted text for that but we both know what your crazy predictions were for the joshau-Martin and look how that turned out...so again you're credibility and forecasts on how fights turn out are not very poor...next

Ah yes, the Blame The Gizmo excuse. Any thoughts I had on that fight were just opinions. Martin does have some talent. He just froze on the big stage. Joshua is good, he'll beat Brassiere, maybe even Haye, but I doubt it. Still doesn't change that your triangle theories you cling to are never a good bet to cling to.

[The plunger man]

I'm no expert, especially not at the lower weights, but i certainly know a lot more than you.

You actually claim to be an expert, which frankly is laughable.

A boxiing fan knows about all weights, the only thing that you seem to be informed on is fury and his so called king of kings resumes...I can lose u on any divsion top to bottom...domestic and world level.

Now you said Wladimir has stated on a number of occasions about a few fighters who he thinks will reign supreme as the future of the heavyweight division ..? Show me who else he thinks will be the future of the division

According to you emanuel steward has declared tyson fury as the future king of the heavyweights..that may be the case but seeing that he died in October 2012 and was poorly for 6 months prior to that ...i doubt very much he had the chance to view AJ on proffesional a level and if he did I'm pretty much sure he would have also joined all the other top experts and judges in declaring joshua as the man destined for the top and he would have been in agreement with a fighter he trained for so many years. ..which is klitchcko...you talk **** once again

Now what ever way you spin it joey Abel was a f@ckin bum who repeatedly tagged fury with left hands and wobbled him and you still say tyson has improved.

Denium your not a bad lad but your seriously lacking scruples or boxing knowledge if you think fury will be able to keep away from a sharp shooter like joshua for 12 rounds and unlike klitchcko in the first fight will not be affraid to pull the trigger, joshua is technically superior to fury in almost every aspect
Furys resume besides an old 40 year old klitchcko is piss poor and he's been a pro for 7 years.
You really don't know **** about boxing Denium

[The plunger man]

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Joshua/Murray eh? That's a new one on me. Is that Bill Murray or Anne Murray? Cuz I doubt either would stand a chance.



Ah yes, the Blame The Gizmo excuse. Any thoughts I had on that fight were just opinions. Martin does have some talent. He just froze on the big stage. Joshua is good, he'll beat Brassiere, maybe even Haye, but I doubt it. Still doesn't change that your triangle theories you cling to are never a good bet to cling to.

that statement was about KO ratios and denzel Denium stating tyson furys percentage is as good as there's
Tyson fury W12 Kevin Johnson
Anthony Joshua KO 2 Kevin Johnson
Tyson fury W12 dereck chisora
David haye KO 5 dereck Chisora
It's not rocket science that both haye and Joshua are far bigger punchers than fury lol
We all know triangle fights can't be compared hence duran beat leonard, leonard beat hearns and hearns beat roberto duran.. That was never the the question

I've watched all your quotes up to the joshua Martin fight and how you said martin would beat him...come to think of it ..I even think u said it about Whyte before he got beat joshua....I think david haye and Deontay wilder have a better style to upset joshua but it's certainly not gonna be tyson fury

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A boxiing fan knows about all weights, the only thing that you seem to be informed on is fury and his so called king of kings resumes...I can lose u on any divsion top to bottom...domestic and world level.

It depends what you classify as an expert i suppose. I've only seen you comment on threads about heavyweights, specifically Anthony Joshua. I like to think that i have a reasonable grasp on the sweet science. You seem to have things in black and white all the time. I honestly don't see how anyone who classifies themselves as an unbiased non casual boxing fan can call Fury-Joshua an easy fight for AJ. I can understand people picking him, he obviously punches hard and could knock out anyone, but boxing doesn't work like that, otherwise all divisions would just be dominated by brutal power punchers.

Now you said Wladimir has stated on a number of occasions about a few fighters who he thinks will reign supreme as the future of the heavyweight division ..? Show me who else he thinks will be the future of the division

I'll find some sources later, but i remember him saying good things about David Price, and i'm sure there's others. Wladimir is well known for bigging up prospects, ask some of his big fans like Scott-Weiland.

Sauce

According to you emanuel steward has declared tyson fury as the future king of the heavyweights..that may be the case but seeing that he died in October 2012 and was poorly for 6 months prior to that ...i doubt very much he had the chance to view AJ on proffesional a level and if he did I'm pretty much sure he would have also joined all the other top experts and judges in declaring joshua as the man destined for the top and he would have been in agreement with a fighter he trained for so many years. ..which is klitchcko...you talk **** once again

Well it's not according to me, it's well known. Maybe he would've rated Joshua, maybe not, like you say, the man is dead so who are we to speculate?

Now what ever way you spin it joey Abel was a f@ckin bum who repeatedly tagged fury with left hands and wobbled him and you still say tyson has improved.

I'm not trying to spin anything, Abel is a bum, but watch the fight! Fury literally dropped his hands! Look!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGkk96iEpaE

Denium your not a bad lad but your seriously lacking scruples or boxing knowledge if you think fury will be able to keep away from a sharp shooter like joshua for 12 rounds and unlike klitchcko in the first fight will not be affraid to pull the trigger, joshua is technically superior to fury in almost every aspect
Furys resume besides an old 40 year old klitchcko is piss poor and he's been a pro for 7 years.
You really don't know **** about boxing Denium

How is Joshua going to land his bombs on Fury? He doesn't throw punches across the ring, he fights in the pocket, comes forward in straight lines. Fury is the taller man with the bigger reach who boxes off the back foot with a good jab.

You say "technically superior in almost every aspect". Give some specifics.

Fury has the better engine, has the better footwork, has the better ring IQ, has more experience, has faced superior opposition, can switch seamlessly.

Fury's resume isn't the greatest i'll happily admit, but he's the same age as Joshua, has won every title up to and including the lineal & beaten ex world champions. Anyway, there's not that many top ranked HW's with great resumes. Wlad & Povetkin, sure, but who else? Wilder? Nah, Ortiz? Nope.

I know more about the sweet science than you Steve, and i'll sleep well tonight knowing that fact.

[The plunger man]

It depends what you classify as an expert i suppose. I've only seen you comment on threads about heavyweights, specifically Anthony Joshua. I like to think that i have a reasonable grasp on the sweet science. You seem to have things in black and white all the time. I honestly don't see how anyone who classifies themselves as an unbiased non casual boxing fan can call Fury-Joshua an easy fight for AJ. I can understand people picking him, he obviously punches hard and could knock out anyone, but boxing doesn't work like that, otherwise all divisions would just be dominated by brutal power punchers.



I'll find some sources later, but i remember him saying good things about David Price, and i'm sure there's others. Wladimir is well known for bigging up prospects, ask some of his big fans like Scott-Weiland.

Sauce



Well it's not according to me, it's well known. Maybe he would've rated Joshua, maybe not, like you say, the man is dead so who are we to speculate?



I'm not trying to spin anything, Abel is a bum, but watch the fight! Fury literally dropped his hands! Look!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGkk96iEpaE



How is Joshua going to land his bombs on Fury? He doesn't throw punches across the ring, he fights in the pocket, comes forward in straight lines. Fury is the taller man with the bigger reach who boxes off the back foot with a good jab.

You say "technically superior in almost every aspect". Give some specifics.

Fury has the better engine, has the better footwork, has the better ring IQ, has more experience, has faced superior opposition, can switch seamlessly.

Fury's resume isn't the greatest i'll happily admit, but he's the same age as Joshua, has won every title up to and including the lineal & beaten ex world champions. Anyway, there's not that many top ranked HW's with great resumes. Wlad & Povetkin, sure, but who else? Wilder? Nah, Ortiz? Nope.

I know more about the sweet science than you Steve, and i'll sleep well tonight knowing that fact.

Well seeing as you brought manny steward up in the first place ....I'm just closing the conversation and again calling your bluff...no jargon just proof of manny said ....show me the proof of what klitchcko according to you said about other heavyweight fighters becoming the future of the divsion and don't dodge the question again ..I'm waiting for your bull**** proof ?

Joshua has faster hands. Superior power, combination puncher, better finisher , punch selection and the most important superior timing ...you won't see joshua uppercut himself when throwing a punch lol...better chin as he's not hit the canvas as pro and fury has 2 times and that's against fighters who were either 50lb lighter or a European bum.
As for your declaration that fury has a better engine says who...joshua has not lost taken everybody out before the 8th so who you to say fury has a better engine ...u f@ckin idiot lol....Ring IQ. Again Joshua's not even been tested and he's stopped everybody put in front of him so untill he shows he has flaws in his IQ then a fanboy like you can't claim it....the 3 things I give fury are big fight experience , height & reach and footwork and movement , fury falls way behind on power, handspeed, timing , combinations and a great finisher and shows dedication and is mentally sound...so joshua fights in the pocket ..do you actually know what that means...almost all of Joshua's wins have not come from brawling lol.....they come from joshua landing his right hand from the outside and when they are hurt he closes them down and stops them.....u can't knock fighters out from outside of range or as you say outside the pocket....when you hurt a fighter u finish them lol....you do not have a scooby Denium ..joshua has enough timing, speed and power to just let the lummox jig about and then do exactly what he did with Martin ...a well timed counter and its curtains .
Tyson fury has been pro 4 years longer than joshua and yet joshua has achieved almost what fury has accomplished , so when joshau has reached 7 years as a pro let's compare resumes shall we....joshua Olympic champion and fury guess what he failed to even make the Olympics ....as I said you don't know **** about boxing denium
P.s if you actually left a tyson fury thread you will see I comment on almost every subject .....what I do I'll quote your name on all my posts outside the fury & joshua topic and you do the same and let's see who covers boxing in general shall we lol

[kafkod]

These AJ stans can't spell for ****. What an absolute load of waffle!! ^^


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[PunchyPotorff]

that statement was about KO ratios and denzel Denium stating tyson furys percentage is as good as there's
Tyson fury W12 Kevin Johnson
Anthony Joshua KO 2 Kevin Johnson
Tyson fury W12 dereck chisora
David haye KO 5 dereck Chisora
It's not rocket science that both haye and Joshua are far bigger punchers than fury lol
We all know triangle fights can't be compared hence duran beat leonard, leonard beat hearns and hearns beat roberto duran.. That was never the the question

I've watched all your quotes up to the joshua Martin fight and how you said martin would beat him...come to think of it ..I even think u said it about Whyte before he got beat joshua....I think david haye and Deontay wilder have a better style to upset joshua but it's certainly not gonna be tyson fury

Easy to see by your attitude and writing style that you just have too much time on your hands. I have 3700+ posts currently. If you've read them all, you indeed need to spend more time with the ladies, less time on here.

Bottom line: I've kept up with boxing since the late 50s/early 60s. And have boxed as a teen. No, I don't billboard myself an expert. There are several of those on here whose boxing wisdom is easily noticed. You just don't happen to be one of em. Never will be. But keep slicing away thinking otherwise. I'm sure you will. I get cranky and pizzed sometimes on here, fairly common thing. But you seem to be that way all the time, and only agree with one person's opinion on things: YOUR OWN. Good luck with that, squire.