Could Calzaghe have got to 50-0?

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  • robertzimmerman
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    #21
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    Yes he easily could have gone to 50 and 0. He was a good fighter and not a cherry picker at all. He beat a prime Kessler and Kessler beat Froch. He came to the states to beat both Hopkins and Jones so how in the *** is that being a cherry picker???????????????????????
    I'm assuming this is a joke?

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      #22
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      I can understand mentioning Hopkins and Dawson, for various reasons but Johnson? The **** is Johnson gonna do against Calzaghe, who probably would have been one of the top 3 opponents he ever faced?
      I'd have picked Joe, but it would have been a tough fight stylistically. The Bika fight was ugly and this could have looked similar.

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        #23
        Originally posted by mathed
        ABSOLUTELY!!!

        Joe would have smoked everyone around him.
        Like who?

        Give us some names.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
          Yeah I think so...

          Around 08-09, the names he could have fought:
          Tarver
          Johnson
          Pavlik
          Taylor
          Abraham
          Bute
          Froch
          Kessler 2

          I would have favored Joe over all of them
          Joe was great. So theoretically, yes. But realistically, no.

          He would never have fought Pavlik, Tarver or Dawson. Also, if his target was 50, the closer he got, the less risks he would have taken.

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            #25
            Originally posted by soul_survivor
            Don't know about those 2. I highly doubt Calzaghe would have come down to smw to fight Bute.

            Froch may seem likely on paper but the guy was a complete unknown in the UK and even with his WBC belt, he didn't mean much to Calzaghe. However, I do agree that Calzaghe beats them both.

            He also makes Pavlik look ****** for 12 rounds.
            In my honest opinion, he'd have beaten Kelly as easy as Bernard did. But he wouldn't fight him.

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              #26
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              He ended his career at 46-0, with back to back wins over HOFers, having spent the better part of a decade clearing out the super middleweight division. If he had carried on boxing post 2008, over the next couple years or so, do you think he could have reached 50-0?

              He obviously wouldn't have been at 168 so the Froch, AA and Ward fights seem unlikely, unless Froch moved up, even then I feel Calzaghe (at 36) would beat those versions of those fighters.

              Or, if he was to stay at LHW, would there have been a Hopkins rematch? A Pascal fight? Possibly Dawson?
              when did that happen? he spent about 9 years fighting nobodies or guys on the slide. then he fought a couple overhyped guys in a bad division adn moved up.

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                #27
                Originally posted by mathed
                Bika butted him and Joe still controlled the fight.... Won by at least 4 rounds.
                Calzaghe was holding the whole fight, that's why Bika was butting. Bika was actually roughing him up pretty badly on the inside, any time he started doing work he got separated and warned by the ref lol, no warnings for Joe though.

                4 rounds? More like 1-2 at the most, the crowd was going crazy with anything Joe threw, that probably influenced you, same with the commentators.

                Like Joe said breathing hard in the corner before the 12th round
                "what do I do?" both him and his dad knew the fight was close to a draw, he tried to win that round and still couldn't.
                Last edited by Cutthroat; 05-10-2016, 06:40 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Cutthroat
                  Calzaghe was holding the whole fight, that's why Bika was butting. Bika was actually roughing him up pretty badly on the inside, any time he started doing work he got separated and warned by the ref lol, no warnings for Joe though.

                  4 rounds? More like 1-2 at the most, the crowd was going crazy with anything Joe threw, that probably influenced you, same with the commentators.

                  Like Joe said breathing hard in the corner before the 12th round
                  "what do I do?" both him and his dad knew the fight was close to a draw, he tried to win that round and still couldn't.
                  calzaghe held nonstop and faked low lows against bika. i guess bika wins automatically right? those are the reasons calzaghe beat hopkins since everyone ignored clean punching which he lost by 5 billino percent.
                  Last edited by daggum; 05-10-2016, 06:53 PM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    calzaghe held nonstop and faked low lows against bika. i guess bika wins automatically right? those are the reasons calzaghe beat hopkins since everyone ignored clean punching which he lost by 5 billino percent.
                    He definitely concentrated more on volume than he did on accuracy.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                      He definitely concentrated more on volume than he did on accuracy.
                      isn't that the exact opposite of the point of boxing? at least according to the rules.

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