Khan grabbed his balls and stepped up...why can't ggg?

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  • Tomjas
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    #51
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    I have no doubt Canelo would back a 160 fight...but his team may not.

    The guy does want to create a legacy but I think the wrong people are advising him...they need some of them on Khans team lol
    Next few weeks on this forum

    "154-168 doe"

    "160 doe"

    DLH will be pissed off at Canelo for this

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    • -MEGA-
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      #52
      Originally posted by TJ highway
      I think you mean why can't Canelo step up?

      GGG is the 160 lbs Champion! He fights at 160 Lbs!

      I like Canelo and was rooting for him tonight! Although until Khan was knocked the **** out I thought he was winning!

      GGG is bigger and faster! Imagine if Khan had GGG's power?

      Saul is not ready! JMHO!
      I've already explained the khan fight style earlier. As well as said that Canelo is likely to lose to ggg. I don't get why your so stuck on ggg staying or even unifying 160. Name one fighter that has a chance against ggg at 160? If you could find one then maybe we could talk why he should unify.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Tomjas
        I dont think that a bigger ring or softer gloves would necessarily benefit Canelo as:

        a. he doesnt have great foot movement so a bigger ring would be of questionable value as he is no Lara; and

        b. he needs to get GGG to respect his power to keep him away

        As I hope that I have made clear, I'm not completely sold on GGG but Canelo needs to play to his strengths i.e. short accurate punches made in the trenches

        Run and he will be walked down

        Big gloves and GGG walks through him

        Anyway, unlike some, I reckon a defeat really hurts Canelo as he is not a big guy for a MW and is going to be up against it physically sooner rather than later at that weight (Hearns vs Duran springs to mind)

        These are his prime years and a big defeat could cost him enormously
        I just don't think Canelo can beat him right now, at all. There's always the lucky punch (I hate saying that) but that was just all hyperbole to use every advantage possible. As well as the catchweight.

        With that said I don't think a loss would hurt Canelo that bad no matter how he looses. I think the outcome is a foregone conclusion to most and he'd probably gain some fans that used to be haters for actually "stepping up". See how that works?

        Of coarse if ggg is content with a mediocre career at MW that may hurt Canelo in the long run I just don't see it now for a 25 yr old boxer with his drawing power.

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          #54
          Originally posted by soul_survivor
          But we're talking about a guy who wants all the middleweight belts. He has the IBF, WBA and IBO belts and is targeting the WBO/WBC champs. It's up to Canelo to either vacate or fight at a proper divisional weight class.

          What should GGG do? Move up to 168 and fight who exactly? DeGale/Jack is happening next and the only other name in the division is Groves who doesn't have a title and has an upcoming fight. Everyone else is still building their careers.
          I somehow feel your trolling me with these obvious questions.

          Yea we are talking about a guy (who's considered the most dangerous man in boxing) who wants to unify possibly the worst division in boxing right now. Does that even make sense? Sounds like an oxymoron to me. You really think ggg wants the belts more than the money? Are you that brainwashed by him? He wants the pay day. It's likely the only big one he'll see because he won't take risks and he's pretty old. (Although age hasn't seemed to factor in yet)

          Do you think anybody at 160 can beat ggg? If your answer to this is no. Then yes, he should move up. Those names you mentioned are much better than any of the current names on his resume and would make his 160 run and KO streak look more impressive. As well as justify why everybody ducked him. Then when he's done with 168 move up to 175. that's where the real action starts, when guys can take your punch and possibly hit you back just as hard.

          He's starting to come off as a beggar sitting around waiting for a hand out IMO.

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          • soul_survivor
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            #55
            Originally posted by Tomjas
            Next few weeks on this forum

            "154-168 doe"

            "160 doe"

            DLH will be pissed off at Canelo for this
            lol DLH probs thinking his job is a lot more difficult now

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              #56
              Originally posted by -MEGA-
              I somehow feel your trolling me with these obvious questions.

              Yea we are talking about a guy (who's considered the most dangerous man in boxing) who wants to unify possibly the worst division in boxing right now. Does that even make sense? Sounds like an oxymoron to me. You really think ggg wants the belts more than the money? Are you that brainwashed by him? He wants the pay day. It's likely the only big one he'll see because he won't take risks and he's pretty old. (Although age hasn't seemed to factor in yet)

              Do you think anybody at 160 can beat ggg? If your answer to this is no. Then yes, he should move up. Those names you mentioned are much better than any of the current names on his resume and would make his 160 run and KO streak look more impressive. As well as justify why everybody ducked him. Then when he's done with 168 move up to 175. that's where the real action starts, when guys can take your punch and possibly hit you back just as hard.

              He's starting to come off as a beggar sitting around waiting for a hand out IMO.
              The payday comes with unifying the titles, what's the problem here? Are fighters no longer allowed to unify the divisions in which they fight? Plus, why is it such a problem for you if GGG does fight Canelo, it's a great fight and Canelo is the so called lineal champion. Shouldn't he fight his number one opponent?

              You're just an idiot.

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              • TJ highway
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                #57
                Originally posted by -MEGA-
                I've already explained the khan fight style earlier. As well as said that Canelo is likely to lose to ggg. I don't get why your so stuck on ggg staying or even unifying 160. Name one fighter that has a chance against ggg at 160? If you could find one then maybe we could talk why he should unify.
                Oh my bad! Since when I'm I suppose to reed everything you post?
                One more belt! Why should he not unify?

                You don't hold the titles? GGG does! Maybe he want's to unite the titles?

                Sure did sound like it tonight!

                GGG want's to unify his (160) belts!

                Props to Canelo he was the bigger man tonight!

                GGG is bigger, stronger and faster!
                Last edited by TJ highway; 05-08-2016, 06:43 AM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Omowale Tribe
                  The saddest part is that if Canelo goes on to fight someone else it's very likely GGG will fight Kell Brook. Team GGG have mentioned in the past they are very intrigued by that fight.
                  It's very unlikely that this fight would happen. Kell Brook would ask for a catchweight, if he even still wants the fight at all after watching Khan get decapitated. GGG himself didn't seem too hot on the fight in interviews that I've seen.

                  Saunders, Jacobs are both substantially more likely. Even BHops or Korobov would happen before Brook.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    The payday comes with unifying the titles, what's the problem here? Are fighters no longer allowed to unify the divisions in which they fight? Plus, why is it such a problem for you if GGG does fight Canelo, it's a great fight and Canelo is the so called lineal champion. Shouldn't he fight his number one opponent?

                    You're just an idiot.
                    Hasnt ggg already partially unified the titles? Where's the money at then? He ain't even getting partial Canelo money I'd like you to explain this theory to me. Because no Canelo fight equals no big money fight and no share of the 500k plus ppv it would do.

                    Unify it then. I hope for your sake (and all towel boys alike) ggg unifies the **** out of the division and he holds on to the belts forever and ever and ever. To infinity and beyond.

                    No problems with Canelo fighting him. But let's not act like Canelo isn't walking into an almost certain loss and probably stoppage.

                    Great fight? It's more meh to me. Great for ggg towel boys and great for Canelo for taking the risk. ggg well, he's just a 160 pounder trying to "unify" his division. A weak division at that. A division where everybody swerves ggg given the chance. What's so great about that?

                    You know what would have been great? Ward vs ggg. That's pretty much a 50-50 fight (I say 60/40 Ward) but none the less, great fight. There was hundreds of threads spawning hundreds of pages going back 2-3 years about it. Plus they're arguably both top 5 p4p, winner becomes number 1. ggg got his bluff called and he b*tched up, it's a simple as that.

                    If Amir khan can jump up two weight classes and fight Canelo ****ing Alvarez why can't ggg do the same and why shouldn't he be expected to?

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                    • TJ highway
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                      #60
                      No one forced Khan to move up in weight!

                      Just like no one forced Pacquiao to move up two weight divisions to fight the golden Boy!

                      GGG is a middleweight and he wants to unify his division!

                      Khan is a great 147 prouder! A man has got to know his limitations!

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