Comments Thread For: Kubrat Pulev Turns Back Dereck Chisora, Wins EBU Crown

[Jewish-Reptile]

What big shots? Pulev isn't some one punch KO guy, he wore Ustinov & Dimitrenko down to the point of exhaustion, and he didn't come close to stopping Chisora. You seem to be obsessed with Fury's lack of power, and yes he doesn't punch as hard as Joshua/Wlad/Wilder, but he still has a superior KO% than Pulev.

As for referencing the Cunningham/Pakjic fights, you of all people should have learned by now that Fury is a different boxer to who he was earlier in his career. It has little to no bearing on anything, other than Fury can be dropped if hit clean on the jaw. I'm not claiming Fury has an iron chin or anything, but he took a few blows off Wlad in the last fight and laughed in his face. I'm pretty sure you predicted Wlad to drop him with a jab, so not sure what happened there.

Againt Pulev, Fury with his significant size advantage & vastly superior footwork/movement, would jab Pulev's face to bits, probably stopping him late on in the fight.

Easy work.

Doubtful, I don't see that. I think you overrate Fury vastly. Pulev is not much smaller and like Wlad when he let his hands go in the twelfth he had Fury worried, his corner looked concerned to as they know more than anyone about his durability hence the reason he was facing over matched guys prior to facing Haye and Wlad whilst they waited on a cashing out fight, fortunately for them Wlad has aged since his prime 2009-2011. Pulev unlike Wlad would let his hands go and like Wlad had in the 12th their would be success for Pulev too, I couldn't see Fury finishing on his feet if Pulev fought like he did versus Wlad should he ever face Fury. Pulev hurt Wlad in one round more so than Fury ever dud over 12, it may not be pretty but whilst Fury would pitty patting, scratching and clawing whilst grappling and clinching to avoid Pulev's heavy right I expect Pulev would catch him and stop him.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Chisora was cheated. The corrupt referee did not warn Pulev ONE time. Joke

He did. He just warned Chisora early and more often because of the tubby over achieving serial loser's tactics.

[nacho daddy]

I swear down I thought kitsch ko was a clincher, pulev takes the living p*ss... how the **** did the ref not warn him for excessive elbow/clinching. I ain't even a chisora fan but he had an incompetent ref on pulev side.. wilder fury or joshua murder pulev

but is was ok that chisora who also wanted to fight the ref hit pulev 100 times in the back of the head which can injure you. clinching cant

[joe strong]

So you like the 'grit' showed by Fury to win by hook or crook but you dislike Pulev showing his defensive 'grit' to win even when he's throwing more rights and generally heavier shots and more often than your favourite heavyweight.

I think we all understand a little more clearly now. I'm
Beginning to understand more why Fury fans were relieved Fury never had to face Pulev.

You must have a Pulev poster on your wall at home. Pulev hasn't exactly lit it up in the division. You say Fury fans were relieved he didn't face Pulev? Fury is the HW champ after beating the guy who CRUSHED Pulev. Sure styles make fights but Pulev hits like a butterfly & he got dropped by Joey Abell. Chisora was his best win. Ustinov & Dimitrenko are fringe guys at best & Dimitrenko is one of the most overrated HWs of the last decade. Those were his best wins going into the Chisora fight. Why do you keep bringing up Fury in every thread?

[joe strong]

Doubtful, I don't see that. I think you overrate Fury vastly. Pulev is not much smaller and like Wlad when he let his hands go in the twelfth he had Fury worried, his corner looked concerned to as they know more than anyone about his durability hence the reason he was facing over matched guys prior to facing Haye and Wlad whilst they waited on a cashing out fight, fortunately for them Wlad has aged since his prime 2009-2011. Pulev unlike Wlad would let his hands go and like Wlad had in the 12th their would be success for Pulev too, I couldn't see Fury finishing on his feet if Pulev fought like he did versus Wlad should he ever face Fury. Pulev hurt Wlad in one round more so than Fury ever dud over 12, it may not be pretty but whilst Fury would pitty patting, scratching and clawing whilst grappling and clinching to avoid Pulev's heavy right I expect Pulev would catch him and stop him.

Yeah it sure looked like it. How many times did Wlad drop Pulev? How many times did Wlad drop Fury? You said Wlad's prime was 2009-2011 so what is Pulev's excuse? He fought a past his best Wlad & got beat badly. Everyone else Wlad fought past 2011 went 12 except those elite contenders Pianeta, Leapai, Mormeck & 40 some Tony Thompson. You have Pulev rated a little too high. He has yet to beat a top 10 guy. Fury fought Klitschko a year after Pulev. Sorry bud but eastern European HWs are aging & not dominating the division anymore. Povetkin is 37 & still could beat Wilder but father time is closing in. Klitschko will be done soon although he could win the Fury rematch. Pulev never has been anything other than a fringe contender. There are 4 or 5 guys & possible more who could beat him.

[Fury4daWIN]

I thought you rated Pulev a bit?

I dislike his attitude, he clearly thinks he's better than he actually is. He's good enough to beat gatekeepers like Chisora with a load of holding & his decent jab, but when he comes up against an elite HW, he'll lose.

I rated him more before the Wlad fight. I wanted to see how he bounced back against a name opponent, and he really didn't impress me at all. As far as I'm concerned he's a lower top ten guy at the moment. Takam and Jennings would be competitive with him, Joshua and Parker crush him, anyone in the top five crush him.

[Fury4daWIN]

So you like the 'grit' showed by Fury to win by hook or crook but you dislike Pulev showing his defensive 'grit' to win even when he's throwing more rights and generally heavier shots and more often than your favourite heavyweight.

I think we all understand a little more clearly now. I'm
Beginning to understand more why Fury fans were relieved Fury never had to face Pulev.

I don't mind a bit of dirtiness in a fight provided it's not excessive. I don't like flagrant bending of the rules via persistent clinching, which is what fighters like Wlad and Pulev do (and to a lesser extent guys like Ward and Brook etc). It makes fights pure garbage to watch and unfairly disadvantages the opposing fighter.

Pulev showed no grit against Chisora. He knew he could get away with murder and he did so, time and again. Yes, he did land a lot of good shots which is why it's so frustrating he decided to go down that route. He could have beaten Chisors fair and square, the way he beat Ustinov, Dimitrenko, Thompson etc, boxing behind a hard jab and using his footwork to maintain distance. Instead he did his very best to illegally stymie any of Chisora's work on the inside and moaned to the ref when Dereck fired back in the only way he could. The very opposite of grit.

Pulev no doubt thinks this is a better way to win fights than his previous method, and while it'll make fights against shorter foreign fighters considerably less dangerous to him, it'll also leave him unprepared for boxing the larger men who won't allow him to tie them up at every opportunity.

Fury at this point absolutely bodies him.

[Fury4daWIN]

Pulev would wax out 95% of those 70's brawlers ,he has hidden skills ,only the top guys would beat him now . Tghere was nothing finesse about 70's anything he would fit right in ,but be the biggest guy by far so how would Pulevs6'4 250 frame actually take him? Well i know that answer!Thompson was completely out classed after rnd 3 what were you watching?

Well, whatever 'hidden skills' Pulev possesses need to be found again, because they're not in the least bit on display in any of his performances. So far as I can see he's just a big guy with a jab and a right hand. He used to have a bit of moxy too but that's left him since he got splattered to the canvas about fifty times from the same punch from Wlad. He has no inside game, no real defence beyond a bit of rudimentary head movement, and shows no ability to adjust or fight outside his comfort zone. His size allows him to d**** himself effectively over smaller fighters' backs, which might get him some wins if the refs don't DQ him outright (unlikely considering the period) but they don't translate into anything other than a bigger target to land punches on.

He'd get bodied back then and he'd get bodied by any of the top guys in the division today.

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Scott-Weiland does know his boxing, so i think he's just trolling re the Fury comments. It's obvious that Fury would toy with him. Wilder & AJ knock him out.

[juggernaut666]

Well, whatever 'hidden skills' Pulev possesses need to be found again, because they're not in the least bit on display in any of his performances. So far as I can see he's just a big guy with a jab and a right hand. He used to have a bit of moxy too but that's left him since he got splattered to the canvas about fifty times from the same punch from Wlad. He has no inside game, no real defence beyond a bit of rudimentary head movement, and shows no ability to adjust or fight outside his comfort zone. His size allows him to d**** himself effectively over smaller fighters' backs, which might get him some wins if the refs don't DQ him outright (unlikely considering the period) but they don't translate into anything other than a bigger target to land punches on.

He'd get bodied back then and he'd get bodied by any of the top guys in the division today.

Pulev has very good distance timing and is great at baiting someone coming in ,he would easily give many top 10 guys difficulties ,you guys are basing his loss to a then Wlad ,ive never seen Pulev remotely in trouble losing a fight beyond Wlad ....how good is he? I would put him about 6 ,hes more proven then Parker or Breazleae ,has excellent amateur backround and a style very frustrating to fight. Him and Fury would be very competitive fight with Fury winning on points . Not really sure who all the guys in the division are that beats him,when he would beat 90%of them,he doesnt need to adapt as much ,like Wlad his skill sets will dictate his style which is a defensive counterpuncher . Almost all thetop guys use their size to their advantage Wilder and Fury being the ones who need it more sinceone is not a power puncher and the other still has balance issues ,the extra reach goes a long way for those guys.