Comments Thread For: Kubrat Pulev Turns Back Dereck Chisora, Wins EBU Crown

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Is it his bland personality, his sore loser attitude or his dull as ditchwater style I wonder?

I thought you rated Pulev a bit?

I dislike his attitude, he clearly thinks he's better than he actually is. He's good enough to beat gatekeepers like Chisora with a load of holding & his decent jab, but when he comes up against an elite HW, he'll lose.

[Jewish-Reptile]

I thought you rated Pulev a bit?

I dislike his attitude, he clearly thinks he's better than he actually is. He's good enough to beat gatekeepers like Chisora with a load of holding & his decent jab, but when he comes up against an elite HW, he'll lose.

You didn't rate the big shots when he had Chisora on the ropes, Chisora looked terrified and at points as though he didn't know what to do other than bull rush forward throwing those crappy swings he has with nothing behind them.

[Jewish-Reptile]

I believe in fighting fire with fire. If a boxer is blatantly bending the rules to their advantage and getting away with it then as far as I'm concerned the opposing fighter can do whatever he needs to even the scale. Pulev didn't want to get rabbit and kidney punched? Then he shouldn't have d****d himself all over Chisora at every opportunity. Simple.

Don't even know why you're bringing Fury into this. Fury clinches and engages in rough stuff, but he still spends the majority of the fight boxing. He doesn't try to blatantly stymie the action at every opportunity. What Pulev did was tantamount to a DQ offence. It's absolutely negative fighting, and illegally shuts down a huge portion of a shorter fighter's arsenal.

I don't condone fouling in and of itself, but when a big man is leaning on you like that your offensive options are limited. A fighter buries their head on your shoulder and the only head shots you can hit them with are behind the ears. Bodyshots become kidney punches with no leverage behind them. Uppercuts are impossible. That means your only legal options are to do nothing and wait for the ref to break you up, and try to box them from the outside, where you're at a considerable stylistic disadvantage. Fcuk that.

Sad thing was, Pulev was perfectly capable of winning this fight legally. But he's so shit scared of getting dropped on his ass again that he's trying to turn himself into Wlad mark 2. He'd do better to find his balls again, because that tactic's going to end badly for him.

So you like the 'grit' showed by Fury to win by hook or crook but you dislike Pulev showing his defensive 'grit' to win even when he's throwing more rights and generally heavier shots and more often than your favourite heavyweight.

I think we all understand a little more clearly now. I'm
Beginning to understand more why Fury fans were relieved Fury never had to face Pulev.

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Originally Posted by denium

I thought you rated Pulev a bit?

I dislike his attitude, he clearly thinks he's better than he actually is. He's good enough to beat gatekeepers like Chisora with a load of holding & his decent jab, but when he comes up against an elite HW, he'll lose.

You didn't rate the big shots when he had Chisora on the ropes, Chisora looked terrified and at points as though he didn't know what to do other than bull rush forward throwing those crappy swings he has with nothing behind them.

Did he balls look terrified, more frustrated imo. Pulev landed on him all night and didn't come close to hurting him. There wasn't really much Delboy could do, he was picked off by the jab at range and whenever he tried to get inside, Pulev held him.

As for Fury, I think that any neutral boxing fan would predict Tyson to completely outbox him, it would be a shut out win, and I think deep down you know it.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Did he balls look terrified, more frustrated imo. Pulev landed on him all night and didn't come close to hurting him. There wasn't really much Delboy could do, he was picked off by the jab at range and whenever he tried to get inside, Pulev held him.

As for Fury, I think that any neutral boxing fan would predict Tyson to completely outbox him, it would be a shut out win, and I think deep down you know it.

Pulev hasn't shown he's slow down unlike Wlad, he also throws more rights thsn Wlad too, I think with his willingness to throw big shots and Fury's evident lack of power Pulev would stop the new champ, it is a shame Fury will likely manage to avoid him once more before he retires in the next year or so.

Deep down I am disappointed we'll likely never see the fight.

Chisora looked petrified, he was desperate to get off those ropes hence the bull rushing fore arm leads, at one stage I thought Chisora was looking for a way out, he looks mentally shattered since Haye destroyed him. I genuinely felt sorry for him.

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Pulev hasn't shown he's slow down unlike Wlad, he also throws more rights thsn Wlad too, I think with his willingness to throw big shots and Fury's evident lack of power Pulev would stop the new champ, it is a shame Fury will likely manage to avoid him once more before he retires in the next year or so.

Deep down I am disappointed we'll likely never see the fight.

Chisora looked petrified, he was desperate to get off those ropes hence the bull rushing fore arm leads, at one stage I thought Chisora was looking for a way out, he looks mentally shattered since Haye destroyed him. I genuinely felt sorry for him.

Tell you what, download the fight, and show me a screengrab of Chisora looking "terrified" please.

Fury doesn't need power to beat Pulev lol, he would take Pulev's only weapon away from him, and would then proceed to beat him up over 12 rounds. It's a mismatch.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Tell you what, download the fight, and show me a screengrab of Chisora looking "terrified" please.

Fury doesn't need power to beat Pulev lol, he would take Pulev's only weapon away from him, and would then proceed to beat him up over 12 rounds. It's a mismatch.

Doubtful I could see Fury fighting the same tactics he fought against Chisora electing to stay behind the jab all night in fear of Pulev landing his big shots and a bit like against Wlad utilising grappling and clinching when Pulev gets in range I'm fairly sure Pulev would take him down inside 12 rounds though this isn't a Chisora prepared to follow him around the ring blocking punches with his face its the same Pulev who wanted to go toe to toe against Wlad to take him out, only Pulev lets the hands go unlike the Klitschko we've seen last year, Pulev threw more rights in one round than Wlad threw last year Fury couldn't stand up to that for 12 rounds and considering he hasn't the power to stop Pulev I wouldn't bank on Fury finishing the fight on his feet after what I saw pillow fists USS do and the light punching Pakjic, Pulev with his vast experience and heavy hands would likely be far too much for Fury. Their is good reason he and his fans did not want to see Fury compete in that final eliminator the IBF mandated, Fury and his handlers hadn't any reservations facing Cunningham and Johnson because they can't punch, Pulev can, Chisora, Ustinov and Dimitrenko are testament to that.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Pulev is alike , Povetkin and Luis Ortiz in the fact he will struggle getting the fights he craves without being mandated as he is far too dangerous to selected by the likes of the champion and current crop of phoney belt holders currently populating the division, Wlad wasn't eager to face him at the time either and judging by the way he shook Wlad to his boots for good reason. Pulev has underrated power, kinda like Fury's accumulation punching which should not be underestimated, I think both lack one punch fight ending power but both pack enough to cripple the IBF and WBC title holders. Pulev and Povetkin for me are the third and fourth best heavies in the division.

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Doubtful I could see Fury fighting the same tactics he fought against Chisora electing to stay behind the jab all night in fear of Pulev landing his big shots and a bit like against Wlad utilising grappling and clinching when Pulev gets in range I'm fairly sure Pulev would take him down inside 12 rounds though this isn't a Chisora prepared to follow him around the ring blocking punches with his face its the same Pulev who wanted to go toe to toe against Wlad to take him out, only Pulev lets the hands go unlike the Klitschko we've seen last year, Pulev threw more rights in one round than Wlad threw last year Fury couldn't stand up to that for 12 rounds and considering he hasn't the power to stop Pulev I wouldn't bank on Fury finishing the fight on his feet after what I saw pillow fists USS do and the light punching Pakjic, Pulev with his vast experience and heavy hands would likely be far too much for Fury. Their is good reason he and his fans did not want to see Fury compete in that final eliminator the IBF mandated, Fury and his handlers hadn't any reservations facing Cunningham and Johnson because they can't punch, Pulev can, Chisora, Ustinov and Dimitrenko are testament to that.

What big shots? Pulev isn't some one punch KO guy, he wore Ustinov & Dimitrenko down to the point of exhaustion, and he didn't come close to stopping Chisora. You seem to be obsessed with Fury's lack of power, and yes he doesn't punch as hard as Joshua/Wlad/Wilder, but he still has a superior KO% than Pulev.

As for referencing the Cunningham/Pakjic fights, you of all people should have learned by now that Fury is a different boxer to who he was earlier in his career. It has little to no bearing on anything, other than Fury can be dropped if hit clean on the jaw. I'm not claiming Fury has an iron chin or anything, but he took a few blows off Wlad in the last fight and laughed in his face. I'm pretty sure you predicted Wlad to drop him with a jab, so not sure what happened there.

Againt Pulev, Fury with his significant size advantage & vastly superior footwork/movement, would jab Pulev's face to bits, probably stopping him late on in the fight.

Easy work.

[The King25]

Chisora was cheated. The corrupt referee did not warn Pulev ONE time. Joke