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  • Swatty
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    #91
    Originally posted by joseph5620
    You don't have to tell me that. I'm glad you did some reading. You should do that more often before you speak on things you don't know anything about.


    Trinidad also knocked out Hacine Cherifi after the Trinidad fight before he retired. To say he never looked good at 160 is just more ignorance on your part.
    He never looked good at MW. Just a fact. Lost to and dominated by career JMW Winky Wright in Wright's first fight at MW after he (Tito) lost to Bernard. He retired and did not look good when he came back.

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    • joseph5620
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      #92
      Originally posted by HandsofIron
      Actually, Trinidad started his career at 140 lbs and his best weight was 147/154. So no, Trinidad wasn't a legitimate middleweight.



      Okay I get it lol. Thomas Hearns started his career at 147. His best weight was 147/154 so he was never a true middleweight either.


      Muhamad Ali started his career in the 180's. He was never a true heavyweight.......

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      • joseph5620
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        #93
        Originally posted by Swatty
        He never looked good at MW. Just a fact. Lost to and dominated by career JMW Winky Wright in Wright's first fight at MW after he (Tito) lost to Bernard. He retired and did not look good when he came back.
        The bottom line is that when he fought Hopkins he was a middleweight and went in as the favorite. No amount of spinning and rewriting history is going to change that. He obviously looked good in the Joppy fight so your claim that he never looked good at 160 is a lie.

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        • HandsofIron
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          #94
          Honestly, Bernard's right in a way. If you think about it, Triple G doesn't have any competition at 160 or 168. Hell, I think he could of beat Ward too if GGG adjusted to 168 accordingly. LHW/175 is the weight class where I think GGG can truly be tested.

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          • joseph5620
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            #95
            Originally posted by eco1
            Trinidad lost that fight b4 getting into the ring.

            He had lots of issues in his life at the time and not a good training camp because of that.
            You should save those BS excuses for somebody else.

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              #96
              Originally posted by K-Nan
              You're right, it doesn't shit on GGG's resume, it projectile vomits on it.

              Imagine it being like Canelo moving up and GGG beating him. But... a better version of Canelo. Twice.
              Canelo isn't moving up though. He has been fighting at MW for over two years.

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                #97
                Originally posted by K-Nan
                You're right, it doesn't shit on GGG's resume, it projectile vomits on it.

                Imagine it being like Canelo moving up and GGG beating him. But... a better version of Canelo. Twice.
                Not sure Oscar was any better than Canelo at MW. He was much smaller. Much bigger balls though

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                • HandsofIron
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by joseph5620
                  The bottom line is that when he fought Hopkins he was a middleweight and went in as the favorite. No amount of spinning and rewriting history is going to change that. He obviously looked good in the Joppy fight so your claim that he never looked good at 160 is a lie.
                  Joppy's a bum, anyone can look good against him.

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                  • hitking
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by PulpFriction
                    Golovkin doesn't even rehydrate to 175. How is it a no brainer he should fight at a weight where he'll have a 15-20 lb disadvantage?
                    Bro, most ATG non-heavyweights moved up and tested themselves against bigger guys. The best two fighters of the previous era (Floyd and Manny) faced similar weight disadvantages numerous times in their careers. The all-time P4P King Ray Robinson started out as a lightweight. He won titles at welter and middleweight. And one of his moat legendary moments came when he was beating Joey Maxim for the light heavyweight title and passed out from heat exhaustion. A pretty consensus P4P #2 Henry Armstrong held the feather, light, and welterweight titles simultaneously. Why is it OK to mention GGG in the same breath as ATGs. But, when GGG is asked to do ATG ****, all you hear is excuses?

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                    • HandsofIron
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Apester
                      Canelo isn't moving up though. He has been fighting at MW for over two years.
                      He's been fighting at catchweights/155, so of course he's going to move up.

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