Why doesnt Floyd's list of potential comback opponents include any African Americans?

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  • Boxfan83
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    #71
    Originally posted by PivotandRoll
    Money.. It's really that simple.

    It's either a latino, Khan or Broner and you all laughed at that.

    Why does skin colour or race matter? Why isn't he insulted for not fighting a mixed race fighter from Britain named Kell Brook? Because it wouldn't suit anyone's agenda?
    Styles make fights thats why. African Americans bring a different style and something different to the table that what we are used to seeing. We all know Floyd can beat the Maidanas, Guerreros, and Ortiz's.

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      #72
      Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
      Black fighters got insane advantages in boxing. It's more natural for them. Why should Floyd take bigger risks than neccessary? Andre Berto was an okay choice, he wasn't dangerous at all.
      I wouldnt necessarily say insane advantages but they bring something different to the table. Styles make fights, and AA's tend to have a difficult style (not all but a lot) which is why personally I think guys make a huge deal on NSB when you get some eastern Euro or Russian beating some mediocre black fighter.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Boxfan83
        Styles make fights thats why. African Americans bring a different style and something different to the table that what we are used to seeing. We all know Floyd can beat the Maidanas, Guerreros, and Ortiz's.
        This post suggests all black fighters fight the same way. I didn't know African Americans all fought the same way and I want to think you meant to post something else.

        If you really believe black fighters have only one style, then the answer to your question would be since he already beat a black fighter, he need not fight another since, they all fight alike.

        I think you meant to say something else.

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          #74
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          This post suggests all black fighters fight the same way. I didn't know African Americans all fought the same way and I want to think you meant to post something else.

          If you really believe black fighters have only one style, then the answer to your question would be since he already beat a black fighter, he need not fight another since, they all fight alike.

          I think you meant to say something else.
          No they dont just "most" bring something different. Mybad if I made it sound bad though, that wasnt my point. I personally acknowledge there are the James Kirklands and Randall Baileys out there.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Boxfan83
            Styles make fights thats why. African Americans bring a different style and something different to the table that what we are used to seeing. We all know Floyd can beat the Maidanas, Guerreros, and Ortiz's.
            Which style is that exactly? The style Porter uses that Ricky Hatton was also a fan of?

            Thurman? I'd say Khan and Thurman fight rather similar no? Thurman more coordinated while Khan's more athletic

            Doesn't Kell, a english fighter rather fight a lot like Floyd himself...

            You realize fighters fight differently no matter if they are from the same street or same country.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Boxfan83
              No they dont just "most" bring something different. Mybad if I made it sound bad though, that wasnt my point. I personally acknowledge there are the James Kirklands and Randall Baileys out there.
              What the hell do you mean James Kirklands? What about George Foremans? or Joe Frazier's? Or Mike Tyson's? Joe Louis's?

              Seriously just stop..

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                #77
                Originally posted by Boxfan83
                I wouldnt necessarily say insane advantages but they bring something different to the table. Styles make fights, and AA's tend to have a difficult style (not all but a lot) which is why personally I think guys make a huge deal on NSB when you get some eastern Euro or Russian beating some mediocre black fighter.
                If one made a top 10 all-time list, then it would only feature black fighters.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Boxfan83
                  No they dont just "most" bring something different. Mybad if I made it sound bad though, that wasnt my point. I personally acknowledge there are the James Kirklands and Randall Baileys out there.
                  Watch a James Kirkland ..hell watch a Iran Barkley fight ..and then watch a Billy Joe Saunders fight...And tell me again how black fighters are "slick"

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
                    If one made a top 10 all-time list, then it would only feature black fighters.
                    Then one would be a moron who didn't know who Willie Pep was.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Boxfan83
                      I get what you mean but this is really up to Floyd, he himself is the one that can make a fight with another AA big.
                      I ask again who? There isn't anyone who's selling. Thurman, Porter, Brook none of them are on the level of Mosley when Floyd fought him. Spence could be a super fight if Spence becomes what many suspect + we got a time machine to take Spence back 10 years or Floyd forward 10 years. Broner can't even beat a A+ level guy. If Adrien was latino that wouldn't matter, but the fact he's a black guy who can't beat a A+ guy thats a deal breaker PPV-wise.

                      It just has to be promoted right. Typically one would have to appeal to Donald trump supporters and the other would have to appeal to urban America.
                      Donald Trump supports are a bunch of white people? My girl is a super light skin Puerto Rican & she's mad into political **** & went to a Trump rally to protest & she was the darkest skin person there. And "urban america" is watching the NBA & NFL & find boxing to be a mass of unappealing fights, confusing champions & corruption since Tyson retired for the most part.

                      MMA is taking a lot of fans but boxing can take it away, one big blow to boxing was losing the AA crowd. Boxing hayday was Hagler vs Hearns, Leonard vs both and throw in a latino like Duran and all was good. Nowadays its seems like the Brits and Mexicans are the only ones fighting each other.
                      I think you are ignoring that the foundation of boxing is corrupted. One big fight will just bring on 18 months of marination til the next big fight. You don't keep an audience by stringing them along til you cash your next big PPV check like boxing keeps thinking is a genius plan. This is 2016. Mfers got the attention span of a ******ed fly. Thats why MMA is becoming more popular. Its BOOOOM happening its quick, the best fight the fight all the time, it more often then not ends in a conclusive ending without debate. There is only 1 champion. There are only 8 weight classes. Its simple & violent like boxing used to be. Boxing has become very un-boxing-like lol. Floyd can't fix all that by fighting another black guy. Boxing needs another Tyson-like figure who's just destroying guys for things to catch fire in the US again.

                      I don't think latino & UK fans care about all the bs in boxing like has turned off US boxing fans nor do American fans have much appreciation for the art of boxing like latino & UK fans. I mean last weekend there was a great fight with Jamie Conlan(?) vs Anthony Nelson(?) that virtually no one would have seen if that fight had happened on a big fight undercard in the US. There are bigger problems with boxing in the US than two non-HW black guys fighting can fix lol.

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