Comments Thread For: Latest PBC on Fox A Smash Hit In The Ring... But Not In the Ratings

[The Gambler1981]

Damn you're right about MLS. Looks like they get $90M a year between ESPN, Fox Sports 1 & Univision & does 250k-ish viewers in the regular season & hits its high water mark at their championship game with under 1M viewers. That should give any boxing fan hope PBC can secure a deal despite all the negativity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer_on_television

I guess it is hard to argue against a TV deal when MLS has been around since 1996 getting slightly better or similar ratings during its entire run & commands $90M a year as week speak. There is just so much PBC negativity with pro-HBO fanboys or anti-PBC fanboys & just a lack of people being pro-boxing on this forum you start to believe its doomed I think lol.

And definitely a fan of ads on the bottom of the screen or just having every aspect of the show sponsored by someone to keep the behind the scenes aspect of boxing you don't get to see on standard regular TV version of boxing. Not sure how plausible that is or isn't for boxing, but I think at least doing it for the in between rounds stuff is potentially a positive for boxing on regular TV.

Yea it is a matter of how much not if they will get it. The biggest problem to me is to get the most money they need to go exclusive but in doing that they open up all the other outlets that got a taste of boxing and may want to keep it. Right now PBC benefits from their control of every possible outlet but one, that gives them a great amount of power over the current course of the sport and if they go exclusive they lose that big time.

So will they work out some kind of deal that keeps the maximum amount of outlets maybe working with different outlets for different periods of the year when a network needs extra sports programming, then switching over to a different one when their other sports pick up. If they are going to be losing money anyways I don't know that going for max money is the way to go.

They need to be innovative with their approach so experimenting with limited commercials during fights would be something to look at, but they need to be looking at a whole lot of things to make their product better.

[Teetotaler]

This thread is fu cking hilarious. Good fights, terrible ratings. I thought it would do better too

[Pigeons]

$90M a year is a lot of money, but when you've invested $925M into the thing, it'll take you over a decade to recoup that considering they still have to spend millions to make fights.

[The Gambler1981]

$90M a year is a lot of money, but when you've invested $925M into the thing, it'll take you over a decade to recoup that considering they still have to spend millions to make fights.

Make no mistake they will be losing money for a long time if they are to be successful at all.

[Eff Pandas]

Big difference between baseball and boxing is baseball (and the other team sports) is way more advertising friendly. With regular lengthy commercial breaks, networks less concerned about profitability.

Lets not forget the UFC gots a $90M deal themselves & MMA is structured just like boxing is. I think the live TV sports angle is underplayed with boxing. Got mfers on this forum always bringing up the budget & ratings for Cops when PBC gets mentioned lol. Sports is a audience that is glued to the TV. Thats mad underrated I think amongst boxing fans who are used to having pissing contests over purses & HBO vs Showtime ratings.

And don't get it twisted there are legit negative comparisons to make between UFC & boxing or other sports & boxing, but being reasonable about what some of these other sports are doing TV deal wise its hard to argue PBC has zero shot at securing a TV deal which seems to be the most popular stance on PBC in this forum.

[Eff Pandas]

$90M a year is a lot of money, but when you've invested $925M into the thing, it'll take you over a decade to recoup that considering they still have to spend millions to make fights.

The only people saying $925M are those investors who are mad Waddall lost some of their money. All other signs point to PBC having spent around half worst case so a ~5 year deal recoups that. Seems like most of these TV deals are around the 7 year mark.

[Can'tHoldMeBack]

Big difference between baseball and boxing is baseball (and the other team sports) is way more advertising friendly. With regular lengthy commercial breaks, networks less concerned about profitability.

Soccer only have commercial breaks before match starts and at halftime

[HeroBando]

Soccer only have commercial breaks before match starts and at halftime

It's also #1 global sport by far, and #1 participant sport for kids in the US. Not really a template for boxing

[MrRolltide91]

Good numbers to me

[boxingitis]

1.5mill viewers? That's ironic, Berto/Ortiz each got $750k, that's about a $1,000 per viewer. Haymon should've spent $1.5mill for each of them and he could've generated 3mill views! PBC logic.

I thinks its $1 per viewer if u do the math correct. 1.5 million dollars and 1.5 million viewers, go back to first grade.