Comments Thread For: Latest PBC on Fox A Smash Hit In The Ring... But Not In the Ratings

[El-blanco]

Eyeballs are eyeballs and to become something like Mayweather of Pacquiao being exposed to more of them helps always.

That argument is destroyed by what? You aren't even making any sense because who is more likely to get someone to get the most people to pay $70 for a PPV the guy who got seen by more people or the one that got saw by less. There is an argument to use but you aren't using it~

The argument is destroyed by the fact that the most popular fighters and the ones that generate money are seen by less people than last nights card. Floyd mayweather used to get 350k ppv buys yet he kept growing. But I thought eyes are eyeballs? Shouldn't berto be a star since he got more on Fox? Your argument is ******ed. You're trying to sound intelligent by quoting Voltaire and twain but your argument is baseless and not steeped in reality.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Because eyeballs are eyeballs and more of them is better than less, for the sport.

An outlet that offers less limits the growth of the sport, and outlet that can land more helps to build out viewership even if not fully taken advantage of. It takes a long time to really cultivate an audience though, and each event is highly dependent on who is involved.

Pretty easy really.

Boxing has been around for decades. It doesn't need to cultivate an audience. It already has one. But wacky decisions, terrrible matchmaking, favoritism, etc, have pushed many away. Lots of older dudes (50s and 60s) got tired of the bs. People like you who push the "boxing is a business" agenda while supporting fighters using the sport as an atm machine, don't help.

[The Gambler1981]

These networks get well over 1mi viewers during prime time when they air reruns of their TV shows and reality shows they can literally get 1mil viewers just from people falling asleep with the TV on bro. Based on the amount of homes FOX is in these ratings are terrible and no evidence to say this will add any new viewers to the sport. Actually the little evidence we do have says it doesnt. Guys who fight on PBC with more overall viewers then cable when they go back to cable for fights draw fewer not more ratings.

We have been over this live sports during the regular season get similar ratings. So comparing sports to sports not some unlike thing it does fine, using Fox those ratings are comparable to a UFC fight headlined by a fight no one cares about.


Sample size and this hasn't been going on long enough to draw that conclusion in a meaningful way.

[The Gambler1981]

The argument is destroyed by the fact that the most popular fighters and the ones that generate money are seen by less people than last nights card. Floyd mayweather used to get 350k ppv buys yet he kept growing. But I thought eyes are eyeballs? Shouldn't berto be a star since he got more on Fox? Your argument is ******ed. You're trying to sound intelligent by quoting Voltaire and twain but your argument is baseless and not steeped in reality.

No it isn't because those guys built up a following over many years and kept building it. A fighter needs to take advantage of exposure to become a star, if a guy isn't the goods they won't become a superstar that people will pay to see.

Still an outlet that offers more eyeballs is more helpful to creating a star than one that limits exposure, just because there is obviously more to making it in boxing than getting seen doesn't make the eyeballs argument invalid.

You not getting it is not my problem~

[The Gambler1981]

Failure us losing money on events man. Your spin is pathetic.

Success making more money later on after spending it in the present~

[The Gambler1981]

Boxing has been around for decades. It doesn't need to cultivate an audience. It already has one. But wacky decisions, terrrible matchmaking, favoritism, etc, have pushed many away. Lots of older dudes (50s and 60s) got tired of the bs. People like you who push the "boxing is a business" agenda while supporting fighters using the sport as an atm machine, don't help.

Why are you talking to me?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Why are you talking to me?

You're the dummy who said Manny would never get more than 40 million from floyd.

Its clear as day you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Eastcoast]

1.5mill viewers? That's ironic, Berto/Ortiz each got $750k, that's about a $1,000 per viewer. Haymon should've spent $1.5mill for each of them and he could've generated 3mill views! PBC logic.

[Vasyl’s dad]

1.5mill viewers? That's ironic, Berto/Ortiz each got $750k, that's about a $1,000 per viewer. Haymon should've spent $1.5mill for each of them and he could've generated 3mill views! PBC logic.

"Uncle Al saving boxing doe"

[Eff Pandas]

Its disappointing boxing can't capture sports fans imagination like it once did. I still think there is some level of who even knows boxing is really on regular TV these days or a feeling of who cares after boxing hasn't really been on regular TV in so long & the overall confusion with how boxing works in 2016 with so much lack of clarity with who are the real champions & contenders. Plus I think more & more people are going away from regular TV & TV's in general these days.

I'm starting to question the viability with boxing on regular TV in particular after hearing Jim Lampley (on a podcast recently) discuss his opinion that with the premium cable & PPV model that has largely monopolized elite level boxing for the last few decades that boxing fans have either gotten used to that model & feel they are missing out watching a commercialized version of boxing that misses out on many aspects of boxing we've gotten used to (ringwalks, in between rounds, being able to freely discuss a fight pre-, post- & during the fight without much concern over time constraints) or they have just drifted away from the sport over time as they were reduced to watching no boxing (without cable) or ESPN or regional sports channels caliber boxing (without premium cable).

I suspect PBC will either need to secure a TV deal with CBS who'll be able to support the long term endeavor of making boxing viable on TV again or they'll need to pivot their business plan (which they may or may not be doing now with all these Showtime cards that seem PBC without being labeled as PBC) that seems heavily invested with regular TV.