Comments Thread For: Breazeale Rips Fury: Joshua is Tougher, Klitschko Will KO Him!

[Vinnykin]

So you want to believe fury back pedaling is somehow going to off set AJ's power when that's when aj is at his best ? AJ wont need the jab,all he has to do is drive inside and pick Fury apart.Fury is not a stiff jabber anyway he has pillow fists of a jab as well AJ will walk right thru him and walk him down.This fight wont get out of rnd 7 if Aj is aggressive,so no you didn't give any viable example of how he th***** AJ's power.And didn't give me one fight showing how he does this because he hasn't fought a guy like AJ so ...on the other hand I can give you 2 examples of guys who completely up ended fury on his back with aggressive punching from a crounched position...see how this works?


where is AJ's questionable stamina the guy went past the 3rd round once? Joshua is not always in the pocket either as his last fight showed that he doesn't need to be. If he gets in furys pocket its a short fight.

I didn't even say he would beat him back pedalling and you have just regurgitated what I've already seen a hundred times...."AJ walks through his punches, he's aggressive"

"He won't even even need a jab" is a new one though, I'll give you that hahaha

There are many ways to offset single punch power. It's about hit and not get hit and it's pretty obvious Fury has mastered that in his last 4 fights. Lateral movement and feints is a way to stop people setting themselves. I could mention more if you want? I won't bring up Joshua fights when he lost at the Olympics so don't bring up Fury fights from years ago either, fighters improve a lot when they are young and years pass with a new trainer.

The very fact he has never went the distance or been in a tough fight where he takes shots as well as clinching and getting leaned on is a very big question mark and a test that many people want to see, myself included. Even the Sky pundits were mentioning that before the Martin fight...

There is literally nothing to say Joshua beats Fury inside going by Joshua's fights. Fury has one of the best inside games I've seen from a HW. It's good to know you think that though as it tells me you're basing that on nothing.

Joshua always fights on the end of his opponents reach and counters (I meant to say Joshua is always standing in range and counters, just inside the pocket)......(always with no head movement and flat footed) He uses his reach and height. He has none of that against Fury. Fury wins this in every way and I can't wait to be proved right again, Just like I was for Klitschko who is a much more proven fighter in every way

[juggernaut666]

I didn't even say he would beat him back pedalling and you have just regurgitated what I've already seen a hundred times...."AJ walks through his punches, he's aggressive"

"He won't even even need a jab" is a new one though, I'll give you that hahaha

There are many ways to offset single punch power. It's about hit and not get hit and it's pretty obvious Fury has mastered that in his last 4 fights. Lateral movement and feints is a way to stop people setting themselves. I could mention more if you want? I won't bring up Joshua fights when he lost at the Olympics so don't bring up Fury fights from years ago either, fighters improve a lot when they are young and years pass with a new trainer.

The very fact he has never went the distance or been in a tough fight where he takes shots as well as clinching and getting leaned on is a very big question mark and a test that many people want to see, myself included. Even the Sky pundits were mentioning that before the Martin fight...

There is literally nothing to say Joshua beats Fury inside going by Joshua's fights. Fury has one of the best inside games I've seen from a HW. It's good to know you think that though as it tells me you're basing that on nothing.

Joshua always fights on the end of his opponents reach and counters (I meant to say Joshua is always standing in range and counters, just inside the pocket)......(always with no head movement and flat footed) He uses his reach and height. He has none of that against Fury. Fury wins this in every way and I can't wait to be proved right again, Just like I was for Klitschko who is a much more proven fighter in every way

AJ doent just relie on a jab, hes won fights without it as a main weapon unlike fury who NEEDS that to win. AJ uses it to measure opponents as well before going inside.His left is more to set up his right hand, AJ usually doesn't throw many jabs so you obvious don't know what your talking about. I wont mention AJ beating up Fury as a PRO either...ooops...my bad ,..I didn't say Fury didn't have a inside game and no he has poor body shot ability,so if you think he matches well with uppercuts and bodyshots to what AJ can do you are truly a fool. you stated hes always in the pocket? Now hes on the end of his opponents? which is it?

I'll tell you since you basically just probably watched clips and reposted...Hes a master at distance and knowing where and when tyo use footwork of either side stepping going back out of range or going forwards when he lands a solid shot or knows the distance is there to go in.....sorry but you aren't in the least credible to me,your basically telling me Aj is not well rounded b/c he hasn't showed ability to go backwards and fight...so I should have stopped there...lol

[Vinnykin]

AJ doent just relie on a jab, hes won fights without it as a main weapon unlike fury who NEEDS that to win. AJ uses it to measure opponents as well before going inside.His left is more to set up his right hand, AJ usually doesn't throw many jabs so you obvious don't know what your talking about. I wont mention AJ beating up Fury as a PRO either...ooops...my bad ,..I didn't say Fury didn't have a inside game and no he has poor body shot ability,so if you think he matches well with uppercuts and bodyshots to what AJ can do you are truly a fool. you stated hes always in the pocket? Now hes on the end of his opponents? which is it?

I'll tell you since you basically just probably watched clips and reposted...Hes a master at distance and knowing where and when tyo use footwork of either side stepping going back out of range or going forwards when he lands a solid shot or knows the distance is there to go in.....sorry but you aren't in the least credible to me,your basically telling me Aj is not well rounded b/c he hasn't showed ability to go backwards and fight...so I should have stopped there...lol

Sorry, that was painful to read. You just admitted he hasn't used a jab but say he is the most well-rounded and skilled HW in the world! hahaha You'd be laughed out of boxing ANY boxing gym with statements like that

"Master of distance" hahaha good one seeing he is yet to be tested by any one where he would need to utilise this skill, or even a world level opponent, but yet he's still a "master"

I explained in my last post what I meant with range and the pocket. I have also explained why he is he is not the most well-rounded, skilled HW in the world I didn't just say the ability to fight going backwards. I mentioned lateral and head movement ad now you have given me another one, ability to work behind a jab. I could say ring IQ as well as stamina which is still to be tested.

I'll leave it here. Once I see all these things and he is in with a world level opponent I will give my full opinion on AJ. You are basing your opinion on your own eye test and guessing he will have all these things when he's in with the best. We shall see

You can't be the most skilled and well-rounded fighter without a jab, never mind all those other things. I think I've disproved your comment.

I actually rate AJ, I think he's No7 in the world currently. I'm just not getting carried away because I've seen these things many times in the last 20 years. I need to see more before I can realistically say he's the best. He's totally untested so far

[Tobi.G]

What was it like in Germany after Wlad lost?

Silence! lol
BTW if Fury is fighting Joshua i dont know who to pick but i like both and if Joshua knocks Fury out, so be it.

[K-Nan]

Silence! lol
BTW if Fury is fighting Joshua i dont know who to pick but i like both and if Joshua knocks Fury out, so be it.

As of right now I'm liking Joshua over Fury. The rematch with Wlad will tell me more about Fury though.

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So are you saying Fury has cleaner punching ?

AJ is the most balanced of all add in speed /power with the abilities to fight inside outside make him the most dangerous ...just pm me if you would like boxing 101classes there free!

AJ is a harder puncher than Fury yes, but that is literally the only advantage Joshua has, he's basically a flat footed plodder

Fury has the better footwork, movement, ring IQ, stamina, punch variety, jab.

I could go on, but that will do for now.

I also find it amusing how these AJ supporters like Plunger & Juggernaut don't seem to know how to construct a coherent sentence. I suspect that like Joshua, they spent their time dealing drugs instead of studying.

[Fury4daWIN]

How do you know duaphas will be able to take Joshua's power....I bet he won't stand up to Joshua's power for more than 5 or 6 rounds......it's not just the power that Joshua has its his strength and size added with the fact he throws crisp clean punches that dismantles fighters .....you only have to look at the Martin fight he hardly let that right hand go and yet it landed **** on and it knocked Martin clean of his feet....ur seriously underestimating the power Joshua has ,...but you will see...the only boxers I think could trouble him is either Haye or wilder.....the reason for it is wilder has a long right hand that could catch Joshua on the outside....or David Haye because he does have great timing and he can ****....fury lacks the power to stop Joshua before he gets to you

I don't know if Duhaupas can take Joshua's power, but considering he took Wilder's and Helenius's I'd say he has a better chance than most. He's also quite sound defensively, and pumps out a consistent heavy jab to offset your rhythm. At any rate, I'm not putting him out there as a challenge to Joshua's power. I'm putting him out there as a guy that can give Joshua rounds. That's what he badly needs at this point. Even if Joshua spends the rest of his career blasting out guys in four or five rounds, you don't want to have that question mark lurking at the back of your mind.

[The plunger man]

I don't know if Duhaupas can take Joshua's power, but considering he took Wilder's and Helenius's I'd say he has a better chance than most. He's also quite sound defensively, and pumps out a consistent heavy jab to offset your rhythm. At any rate, I'm not putting him out there as a challenge to Joshua's power. I'm putting him out there as a guy that can give Joshua rounds. That's what he badly needs at this point. Even if Joshua spends the rest of his career blasting out guys in four or five rounds, you don't want to have that question mark lurking at the back of your mind.

That's a fair comment and I agree....I just don't see to many fringe contenders going many rounds with him....if they don't have the power to keep Joshua at bay then I think it's gonna be tough for any heavyweight.....I think you just need power to stop Joshua be fore he stops you ....but we're see fella

[juggernaut666]

AJ is a harder puncher than Fury yes, but that is literally the only advantage Joshua has, he's basically a flat footed plodder

Fury has the better footwork, movement, ring IQ, stamina, punch variety, jab.

I could go on, but that will do for now.

I also find it amusing how these AJ supporters like Plunger & Juggernaut don't seem to know how to construct a coherent sentence. I suspect that like Joshua, they spent their time dealing drugs instead of studying.

Im getting the impression that you and vinnykin are some special kind of ****** ,maybe even a ******ed siamese twin type that i wouldn't put past the realm of possibility !

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Originally Posted by denium

AJ is a harder puncher than Fury yes, but that is literally the only advantage Joshua has, he's basically a flat footed plodder

Fury has the better footwork, movement, ring IQ, stamina, punch variety, jab.

I could go on, but that will do for now.

I also find it amusing how these AJ supporters like Plunger & Juggernaut don't seem to know how to construct a coherent sentence. I suspect that like Joshua, they spent their time dealing drugs instead of studying.

Im getting the impression that you and vinnykin are some special kind of ****** ,maybe even a ******ed siamese twin type that i wouldn't put past the realm of possibility !

I'm getting the impression that you never went to school.



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