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  • Fury4daWIN
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    #31
    Originally posted by juggernaut666
    Fury would do much worse than Joshua because he would have to work alot harder and continue to hit him rnd after rnd. AJ is the most well rounded fighter in the division and add to the power factor makes him the most dangerous .

    Lets not pretend that Fury outside Wlad has this killer resume,Breazeale may actually be more polished than Fury outside of defense and he can punch which would actually be a top 2 guy at 6'7 that Fury fought himself . AJ is going to win simply because he is on another level in skill and power . On the other hand if Fury fought Breazile it would be nothing more than 2 giants playing tag and seeing who taps who the most.
    Until Joshua goes a full twelve rounds it's impossible to claim he's the most well rounded fighter in the division. Fury's been hurt, put on his back, forced to adapt. I'd say he's clearly the most tested guy at the moment barring Klitschko himself.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Beyonce Bomber
      Until Joshua goes a full twelve rounds it's impossible to claim he's the most well rounded fighter in the division. Fury's been hurt, put on his back, forced to adapt. I'd say he's clearly the most tested guy at the moment barring Klitschko himself.
      Tested ,yes but AJ is that good ,..i see guys that AJ would blow out of the water who Tyson would struggle with. Going rounds doesn't detract from skill. Skills arent stamina in my book ,who really expects AJ fights to last long? Not me.
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-28-2016, 05:57 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        Tested ,yes but AJ is that good ,..i see guys that AJ would blow out of the water who Tyson would struggle with. Going rounds doesn't detract from skill. Skills arent stamina in my book ,who really expects AJ fights to last long? Not me.
        There'll always be someone who can take your power and how you react to that defines you as a fighter. AJ might be a frontrunner for all we know, or someone who struggles to adapt mid-fight. Until we see him going a hard twelve rounds we just won't know, and I for one have put my faith in too many failed prospects in the past to do so again.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Beyonce Bomber
          There'll always be someone who can take your power and how you react to that defines you as a fighter. AJ might be a frontrunner for all we know, or someone who struggles to adapt mid-fight. Until we see him going a hard twelve rounds we just won't know, and I for one have put my faith in too many failed prospects in the past to do so again.
          I dont see anyone lasting 12 rounds if he connects a high percentage ,certainly not Fury or Wlad. So im not sure who will give us that outside Wach really who will never get to AJ . Unless there is another guy able to shown that type pof chin,i havent seen it yet.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Vinnykin
            All you have said is Joshua has power, is the most well rounded and skilled HW and Breazeale is as polished as Fury apart from defence. All BS Imo.

            I gave you an example, based on what I've seen from Joshua, of why he won't have his power against Fury. It's not me as a fan it's how I honestly see it going off the way Fury fights and how he can negate the opponents style. He'll take Joshua's jab and right hand away the same as he did to Klitschko. By feinting, lateral movement and counter punching whenever Joshua is in the pocket (He always is btw)

            Joshua hasn't fought any one I personally consider in the top 20 so it's hard to say. He hasn't shown enough of his game to make me think he beats Fury yet. I have watched every Fury fight in comparison and know his game well. I just see a guy with huge power and good counter punching in Joshua. Footwork, lateral and head movement, loading up on shots and questionable stamina is all the other things in Joshua. As soon as I see him in a fight and boxing for a few rounds (showing all the things I mentioned) I'll give you an honest opinion if he beats Fury, currently I don't see it
            Have you ever put a pair of gloves on lol ! you say Joshua is always in the pocket how did you come to that conclusion...firstly Joshua is not an inside fighter he works from outside and throws straight clean punches and when he hurts that's when he jumps on you...he knocked whyte and Martin out from being from outside ..fury also throws non commitall punches and half hearted jabs when he is backing away...Joshua's hand speed is quicker in speed and in timing...fury also pulls straight back which is the reason why he has been dropped 2 times and each time from the same straight right hand over the top...that's Joshua's honey punch..the only reason why klitchcko never threw punches is because he always had the size advantage and was so use to leaning on his challengers...he would punch then grab and spoil....Joshua ain't like that and all he has to do his let fury do his moving and throwing arm punches and then I guarantee you Joshua will wait for the moment and then counter him and then Tyson will find himself on his back...to beat Joshua you will have to take him into deep waters you will need to out Punch him and out work him which never in a million years will fury be able to do...Joshua will Ko fury as soon as he catches him clean....ur looking past klitchcko which is not a clever thing to do

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              #36
              Originally posted by Beyonce Bomber
              Until Joshua goes a full twelve rounds it's impossible to claim he's the most well rounded fighter in the division. Fury's been hurt, put on his back, forced to adapt. I'd say he's clearly the most tested guy at the moment barring Klitschko himself.
              Fury tested by who ? Don't say klitchcko please because he was non existent in that fight.....ohh you say chisora ? Or maybe you say hammer ? Or maybe it's even Cunningham ....not one of those fighters would last 5 rounds with Joshua ...I have to give fury credit for getting where he has got with such limited fundamentals of boxing but other than a klitchcko who failed to show up who has he actually boxed that could hang with Joshua ...none oh and don't say Kevin Johnson because we all saw what Joshua did to him what klitchcko,fury,chisora and hammer failed to do...destroy him in 2 rounds....Johnson looked up and said no one has ever beaten me like that inside a boxing ring.....you really have no idea what kind of heavyweight fighter Tyson fury will be up against when and if he ever faces Anthony Joshua ...I doubt very much with fury's mental state he remains a force in the heavyweight division and will either walk away or get beaten by klitchcko

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                #37
                Originally posted by Steve plunger
                Fury tested by who ? Don't say klitchcko please because he was non existent in that fight.....ohh you say chisora ? Or maybe you say hammer ? Or maybe it's even Cunningham ....not one of those fighters would last 5 rounds with Joshua ...I have to give fury credit for getting where he has got with such limited fundamentals of boxing but other than a klitchcko who failed to show up who has he actually boxed that could hang with Joshua ...none oh and don't say Kevin Johnson because we all saw what Joshua did to him what klitchcko,fury,chisora and hammer failed to do...destroy him in 2 rounds....Johnson looked up and said no one has ever beaten me like that inside a boxing ring.....you really have no idea what kind of heavyweight fighter Tyson fury will be up against when and if he ever faces Anthony Joshua ...I doubt very much with fury's mental state he remains a force in the heavyweight division and will either walk away or get beaten by klitchcko
                If anything Aj has actually been more tested than Fury,the guy went going from about 1 round fights to 7 against whyte and actually improved as the fight went longer so not sure where the he needs to be tested comes in? given a rematch I would bet anything says whyte lasts no more than 3 rnds,he was rocked the entire fight,only AJ's inexperience going past past 3 made him rethink of going all out.Which is why Martin was crushed ,his timing is getting better . I believe he will also carry Breazeale a few extra rounds to get them in against a tall like opponent similar toy Wlad /Wilder and Fury.Hes certainly favored to beat all those guys for a reason. and each one will have a tougher task than the next which is why Fury wants the fight soon.


                I cant see where fury has been more tested with his opponets than AJ,barring the Wlad rematch which wont matter if he loses. The mental edge also is on Joshuas side ,hes beaten up Fury already so theres also that..terrible match for Fury all around the board.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  I dont see anyone lasting 12 rounds if he connects a high percentage ,certainly not Fury or Wlad. So im not sure who will give us that outside Wach really who will never get to AJ . Unless there is another guy able to shown that type pof chin,i havent seen it yet.
                  I don't mean take his power as in take twelve rounds of punishment. Rather, I mean someone who can take enough of his power to still remain competitive and force him to go the distance, someone like Duhaupas, for instance. Or else someone with enough canniness to make Joshua adapt and think on his feet.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Beyonce Bomber
                    I don't mean take his power as in take twelve rounds of punishment. Rather, I mean someone who can take enough of his power to still remain competitive and force him to go the distance, someone like Duhaupas, for instance. Or else someone with enough canniness to make Joshua adapt and think on his feet.
                    I will be honestly shocked if that happens. I was a bit shocked when Stiverne lasted with Wilder, but I think Wilder carried him to get those rounds in and knew it was safe doing it. the dark horse I can see doing that is Haye ,i don't believe one can take many AJ shots for half of a fight now. I will even use Mike Tyson who Iobviously carried Tillis ten and admitted to carrying Biggs and even to an extent Green who was on his way out in round 10 because Tyson said he wasn't trying to knock him out. I don't believe for a second M. Tyson couldn't finish off anyone under Rooney under 5 rounds if he really wanted to.

                    As you know,you don't learn without getting rounds in, so my prediction is AJ makes his next fight last at least 5 rounds. That aside I still favor AJ over fury even with the less rounds by far total. AJ is actually ahead of M. Tyson now in fighting less rnds at number 17th fight.
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-28-2016, 07:09 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Beyonce Bomber
                      I don't mean take his power as in take twelve rounds of punishment. Rather, I mean someone who can take enough of his power to still remain competitive and force him to go the distance, someone like Duhaupas, for instance. Or else someone with enough canniness to make Joshua adapt and think on his feet.
                      How do you know duaphas will be able to take Joshua's power....I bet he won't stand up to Joshua's power for more than 5 or 6 rounds......it's not just the power that Joshua has its his strength and size added with the fact he throws crisp clean punches that dismantles fighters .....you only have to look at the Martin fight he hardly let that right hand go and yet it landed **** on and it knocked Martin clean of his feet....ur seriously underestimating the power Joshua has ,...but you will see...the only boxers I think could trouble him is either Haye or wilder.....the reason for it is wilder has a long right hand that could catch Joshua on the outside....or David Haye because he does have great timing and he can ****....fury lacks the power to stop Joshua before he gets to you

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