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    #21
    Originally posted by juggernaut666
    Fury would do much worse than Joshua because he would have to work alot harder and continue to hit him rnd after rnd. AJ is the most well rounded fighter in the division and add to the power factor makes him the most dangerous .

    Lets not pretend that Fury outside Wlad has this killer resume,Breazeale may actually be more polished than Fury outside of defense and he can punch which would actually be a top 2 guy at 6'7 that Fury fought himself . AJ is going to win simply because he is on another level in skill and power . On the other hand if Fury fought Breazile it would be nothing more than 2 giants playing tag and seeing who taps who the most.
    "Aj is the most rounded fighter in the division"

    "Breazeale more polished than Fury"

    Someone have a word with this idiot.

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      #22
      Originally posted by denium
      "Aj is the most rounded fighter in the division"

      "Breazeale more polished than Fury"

      Someone have a word with this idiot.
      So are you saying Fury has cleaner punching ?

      AJ is the most balanced of all add in speed /power with the abilities to fight inside outside make him the most dangerous ...just pm me if you would like boxing 101classes there free!

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        #23
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        Fury would do much worse than Joshua because he would have to work alot harder and continue to hit him rnd after rnd. AJ is the most well rounded fighter in the division and add to the power factor makes him the most dangerous .

        Lets not pretend that Fury outside Wlad has this killer resume,Breazeale may actually be more polished than Fury outside of defense and he can punch which would actually be a top 2 guy at 6'7 that Fury fought himself . AJ is going to win simply because he is on another level in skill and power . On the other hand if Fury fought Breazile it would be nothing more than 2 giants playing tag and seeing who taps who the most.
        Fury is an accumulative puncher that's why, lets not pretend it would be hard work he's won his last 4 fights easily without taking any damage. He would just jab this guy until he quit, I doubt the he would even land on Fury.

        He doesn't have a killer resume but over the last 3 years, since Peter became his trainer, he has shown an ability to box to a gameplan. He has shown way more to his game than Joshua so far. The fact you say Joshua is the most well rounded and skilled HW is incredible! He still hasn't shown any head movement, feints, lateral movement, ability to fight going backwards or inside game.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Vinnykin
          Fury is an accumulative puncher that's why, lets not pretend it would be hard work he's won his last 4 fights easily without taking any damage. He would just jab this guy until he quit, I doubt the he would even land on Fury.

          He doesn't have a killer resume but over the last 3 years, since Peter became his trainer, he has shown an ability to box to a gameplan. He has shown way more to his game than Joshua so far. The fact you say Joshua is the most well rounded and skilled HW is incredible! He still hasn't shown any head movement, feints, lateral movement, ability to fight going backwards or inside game.
          already covered the fury punch difference. Its his lack of power that will eventually get him,.You guys cannot just ignore attributes such as power factor as you see fit it certainly counts. Joshua is aggressive ,I have rarly seen him take a dirsect head shot.you know why? Because he does move his head as you guys wish to think he doesn't. He may not look like a bobble doll like fury but he doesn't have to,the guys 6'6 and fights tall for the most part,unless he goes on the inside.Why would he want to fight backwards? That's only a skill required if you really on it. The rest you said is untrue as well you guys are just watching high lite reels iof AJ and not the full fights as short as they are.

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            #25
            Originally posted by juggernaut666
            already covered the fury punch difference. Its his lack of power that will eventually get him,.You guys cannot just ignore attributes such as power factor as you see fit it certainly counts. Joshua is aggressive ,I have rarly seen him take a dirsect head shot.you know why? Because he does move his head as you guys wish to think he doesn't. He may not look like a bobble doll like fury but he doesn't have to,the guys 6'6 and fights tall for the most part,unless he goes on the inside.Why would he want to fight backwards? That's only a skill required if you really on it. The rest you said is untrue as well you guys are just watching high lite reels iof AJ and not the full fights as short as they are.
            No power but it's amazing he has a Ko % over 70%....



            No power...



            They said the same about Calzaghe btw....



            One punch power is good and all but Joshua won't be able to stand in the pocket, set himself and load up punches against Fury. He'll be over-reaching to hit him if anything. If he comes in close well Fury beats him inside as well. Klitschko has the same power as Joshua and Fury took away his right hand and jab. If you think Fury doesn't have the power to stop guys coming in range then you don't know ****. You're looking way too much into Joshua's power when he hasn't shown it at world level yet. Lets wait until he fights a top 10 opponent before getting carried away, power can be taken away

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              #26
              Originally posted by Vinnykin
              No power but it's amazing he has a Ko % over 70%....



              No power...



              They said the same about Calzaghe btw....



              One punch power is good and all but Joshua won't be able to stand in the pocket, set himself and load up punches against Fury. He'll be over-reaching to hit him if anything. If he comes in close well Fury beats him inside as well. Klitschko has the same power as Joshua and Fury took away his right hand and jab. If you think Fury doesn't have the power to stop guys coming in range then you don't know ****. You're looking way too much into Joshua's power when he hasn't shown it at world level yet. Lets wait until he fights a top 10 opponent before getting carried away, power can be taken away
              Listen ,you need the proper attributes to beat Fury,no doubt and AJ has every one of them.

              'One punch power is good and all but Joshua won't be able to stand in the pocket, set himself and load up punches against Fury. He'll be over-reaching to hit him if anything. If he comes in close well Fury beats him inside as well. "

              That's you as a fan not a realist.


              Fury is 250 plus and if you let him hit you enough he will eventually hurt you.Unless you can show me a fight where you think this will happen to a guy like AJ,it means little to me. And I probably have fury ranked higher than you do as a whole in head to head matches so.......

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                #27
                The bum would beat Breezy 10 times out of 10. He needs to worry about coming to Greenwich because if he doesn't take a knee, he'll likely be rendered unconscious.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  Listen ,you need the proper attributes to beat Fury,no doubt and AJ has every one of them.

                  'One punch power is good and all but Joshua won't be able to stand in the pocket, set himself and load up punches against Fury. He'll be over-reaching to hit him if anything. If he comes in close well Fury beats him inside as well. "

                  That's you as a fan not a realist.


                  Fury is 250 plus and if you let him hit you enough he will eventually hurt you.Unless you can show me a fight where you think this will happen to a guy like AJ,it means little to me. And I probably have fury ranked higher than you do as a whole in head to head matches so.......
                  All you have said is Joshua has power, is the most well rounded and skilled HW and Breazeale is as polished as Fury apart from defence. All BS Imo.

                  I gave you an example, based on what I've seen from Joshua, of why he won't have his power against Fury. It's not me as a fan it's how I honestly see it going off the way Fury fights and how he can negate the opponents style. He'll take Joshua's jab and right hand away the same as he did to Klitschko. By feinting, lateral movement and counter punching whenever Joshua is in the pocket (He always is btw)

                  Joshua hasn't fought any one I personally consider in the top 20 so it's hard to say. He hasn't shown enough of his game to make me think he beats Fury yet. I have watched every Fury fight in comparison and know his game well. I just see a guy with huge power and good counter punching in Joshua. Footwork, lateral and head movement, loading up on shots and questionable stamina is all the other things in Joshua. As soon as I see him in a fight and boxing for a few rounds (showing all the things I mentioned) I'll give you an honest opinion if he beats Fury, currently I don't see it

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Vinnykin
                    All you have said is Joshua has power, is the most well rounded and skilled HW and Breazeale is as polished as Fury apart from defence. All BS Imo.

                    I gave you an example, based on what I've seen from Joshua, of why he won't have his power against Fury. It's not me as a fan it's how I honestly see it going off the way Fury fights and how he can negate the opponents style. He'll take Joshua's jab and right hand away the same as he did to Klitschko. By feinting, lateral movement and counter punching whenever Joshua is in the pocket (He always is btw)

                    Joshua hasn't fought any one I personally consider in the top 20 so it's hard to say. He hasn't shown enough of his game to make me think he beats Fury yet. I have watched every Fury fight in comparison and know his game well. I just see a guy with huge power and good counter punching in Joshua. Footwork, lateral and head movement, loading up on shots and questionable stamina is all the other things in Joshua. As soon as I see him in a fight and boxing for a few rounds (showing all the things I mentioned) I'll give you an honest opinion if he beats Fury, currently I don't see it
                    So you want to believe fury back pedaling is somehow going to off set AJ's power when that's when aj is at his best ? AJ wont need the jab,all he has to do is drive inside and pick Fury apart.Fury is not a stiff jabber anyway he has pillow fists of a jab as well AJ will walk right thru him and walk him down.This fight wont get out of rnd 7 if Aj is aggressive,so no you didn't give any viable example of how he th***** AJ's power.And didn't give me one fight showing how he does this because he hasn't fought a guy like AJ so ...on the other hand I can give you 2 examples of guys who completely up ended fury on his back with aggressive punching from a crounched position...see how this works?


                    where is AJ's questionable stamina the guy went past the 3rd round once? Joshua is not always in the pocket either as his last fight showed that he doesn't need to be. If he gets in furys pocket its a short fight.
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-28-2016, 04:19 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Steve plunger
                      Angel ...the only proof we are going to have is when the fight gets closer and ids are laid down and the real defining evidence will be is when they fight...and listening to the constant bellyaching and bi polar statements by fury I'm not sure he's even gonna be fighting after the klitchcko fight....see what's happned is mentally tyson is upst now joshua has come along and created such a buzz and now he's the next superstar of the division...and it's got to tyson fury...and him even taking his shirt of yesterday shows the statements by joshau have got to him....if you can't see that then you don't know boxing sweet cheeks ...now it's his last fight ever in the UK lol...fury is unhinged
                      I don't blame Fury if he wants to leave these shores. He's been treated like shit ever since he won the title.

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