Ward is Unkown Outside The US

[Mr.Fantastic]

Just log out now, it'll burn less in the morning.

In other words, nothing.

Meh, did somebody force Golovkin to have a 350 fight amateur career and turn pro at 24?

Golovkin's career still is an open book. He can still get some legacy defining fights, but I think the window is closing somewhat.

I like Golovkin, quite a bit actually. But just passing the eyeball test and the "chicks dig the long ball" KO's against overmatched opponents isn't cutting it anymore. Not at 34.

Hopefully that changes soon.

Tell me who else isn't fighting overmatched opponents? Floyd's last fight, Berto. Ward's last fight, Barrera. Canelo is fighting Khan. Chocolatito fought Arroyo. Kovalev is fighting some other dude. It's not just GGG.

[K-Nan]

I think everyone knows he isn't a big name.

The fact is boxing isn't even a mainstream sport anyway. Very, very few people crossover into the mainstream. The average man on the street wouldn't know who Golovkin, Ward, Kovalev etc. are, but they are all big names within the boxing world.

Even here in the UK, boxing has become a lot more popular but that's because casual fans are following guys like Joshua. One of the biggest fights here this year was Carl Frampton v Quigg, but your average man on the street has probably never heard of them. It's just the way it is. Boxing is just in a different place now.

So this thread might be about Ward, but you could apply that to almost every fighter in boxing. You could probably count on one hand which boxers from this era are really known by people who don't really follow the sport. And the 2 main ones are "retired" now...

Good post sir.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Tell me who else isn't fighting overmatched opponents? Floyd's last fight, Berto. Ward's last fight, Barrera. Canelo is fighting Khan. Chocolatito fought Arroyo. Kovalev is fighting some other dude. It's not just GGG.

All those guys you named have a pelt or two on their resume.

Golovkin has Curtis Stevens?

Matthew Murray?

Geale?

[Nubia]

All those guys you named have a pelt or two on their resume.

Golovkin has Curtis Stevens?

Matthew Murray?

Geale?

Hey now, don't forget Rosado. He did in fact go life and death with J'Leon Love who was possibly on steroids. That's gotta count of something.

[Mr.Fantastic]

All those guys you named have a pelt or two on their resume.

Golovkin has Curtis Stevens?

Matthew Murray?

Geale?

A pelt or two(besides Floyd). That's not saying much.

Oh and around the same time of fighting, other great MWs already had losses and not a pelt or two till later.

All those guys you mentioned were top 10 opponents when GGG faced them.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Hey now, don't forget Rosado. He did in fact go life and death with J'Leon Love who was possibly on steroids. That's gotta count of something.

J'Leon Love. The same guy Floyd cheers for. Cleaning the sport alright. The Money Team.

[Nubia]

J'Leon Love. The same guy Floyd cheers for. Cleaning the sport alright. The Money Team.

Still on that deflection trip eh?

You should dip some of these responses in plaster like your boy Margarito cause you're coming on really soft right now.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Still on that deflection trip eh?

You should dip some of these responses in plaster like your boy Margarito cause you're coming on really soft right now.

That's the truth though. Speaking of Margarito, shame that he is more popular than Ward.

[Nubia]

That's the truth though. Speaking of Margarito, shame that he is more popular than Ward.

Maybe in Tijuana.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Maybe in Tijuana.

And in Ward's own state.