Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Wade Registers As Most-Watched Cable TV Fight of 2016

[Pain~Lucy]

#BigDramaShow

[MASTERBX]

Didn't Spence vs Algieri peak at 1.482 million viewers?

Yes, HBO is blowing their budget.

[BrometheusBob.]

Yes, but some how lil g -Wade Registers As Most-Watched Cable TV Fight of 2016.

Spence vs Algieri was not a Cable TV Fight.

[ShoulderRoll]

Yes, but on NBC. 1.482 not huge for network TV. Still, this means there were a fair number of eyeballs on Spence blowing out an experienced B level fighter, so that should mean good things for Spence going forward.

Yes, on NBC, which is a disaster

I realize that it was on NBC. But just in terms of the actual eyeballs on the fighters it seems the numbers were very comparable, with Spence actually getting a few more viewers.

[OnePunch]

-Ward-Barrera was only staged in the lower bowl of Oracle Arena; the $25 ticket never actually went on sale for the fight
-SoCal and NorCal are clearly different boxing markets
-K2 originally only planned on staging Golovkin-Wade in the 12k seat setup that they had for Golovkin-Wade; the extra 4500 tickets sold were likely all $30 tickets.

Attendance is one thing and I don't have the numbers to confirm my thoughts, but I'm fairly certain that Golovkin-Wade didn't sell $1m in tickets and I doubt that Golovkin-Wade did more than $800k at the live gate.

spin it all you want. Bottom line is Ward is a Bay area kid his whole life, Olympic gold medalist, fought most of his career in Oakland, and from a Bay area population base of over 7 million people he cant even get 10,000 of them to support his events.

Meanwhile, a guy who barely speaks english, only having been properly promoted for the past 36 months does 16,000+ in LA.

Ward must be incensed when he sees these numbers lol

[Scipio2009]

Showtime, CBS, CBS Sports and Spike TV are all owned by the same company. I think Haymon should target them and if he gets a 5 year deal worth 60 million a year that's 300 million. It's best for boxing if it works out.

... kinda; National Amusements has both CBS Corp (CBS/Showtime) and Viacom (SpikeTV) as subsidiaries, but both companies are run relatively differently.

Personally, I think the baseline for any PBC main content deal is going to be $100m per year (the UFC got that from FOX, targets the same type of audience that it would appear that PBC would be playing to, and FOX misses out on 12 of the bigger fight cards per year, due to PPV).

Showtime/CBS/CBSSports, as the main deal, would work; ShoBox/international fights/fights that can't be fit on CBS/PPV-level fights/PPV fight on Showtime, weekly/bi-weekly prospect cards and support content/replays on CBSSports, and the meat of the content deal on CBS (10-12 primetime fight cards on CBS, afternoon fight cards mixed in after NFL/NCAAF is up for the year, hype programming).

will enjoy the ride but year, I don't expect that phase 2 will involve having to be reminded of boxing content on 7 different networks.

[bigdunny1]

I realize that it was on NBC. But just in terms of the actual eyeballs on the fighters it seems the numbers were very comparable, with Spence actually getting a few more viewers.

Can't compare them. This was a success for premium cable (HBO) while only around 1mil viewers is a bust for Network TV (NBC). Reruns of old TV shows on Network TV get better ratings then PBC got.

per ESPN
Saturday’s Premier Boxing Champions card on NBC in prime time, headlined by welterweight Errol Spence Jr.’s impressive fifth-round knockout of Chris Algieri, averaged 1.3 million viewers, by far the lowest of the six prime time cards on the network since it debuted in March 2015 to an average audience of 3.74 million. Each of the six cards has drawn fewer viewers than the previous one with Saturday’s dropping 500,000 viewers from the previous low of 1.8 million drawn by the card headlined by Omar Figueroa-Antonio DeMarco on Dec. 12. According to Nielsen, Saturday’s card, which went head-to-head with UFC Fight Night on Fox (2.5 million average), ranked 103rd out of 116 programs rated last week.

[bigdunny1]

FYI Beyonce got 787,000 viewers for HBO

[ShoulderRoll]

Can't compare them. This was a success for premium cable (HBO) while only around 1mil viewers is a bust for Network TV (NBC). Reruns of old TV shows on Network TV get better ratings then PBC got.

per ESPN
Saturday’s Premier Boxing Champions card on NBC in prime time, headlined by welterweight Errol Spence Jr.’s impressive fifth-round knockout of Chris Algieri, averaged 1.3 million viewers, by far the lowest of the six prime time cards on the network since it debuted in March 2015 to an average audience of 3.74 million. Each of the six cards has drawn fewer viewers than the previous one with Saturday’s dropping 500,000 viewers from the previous low of 1.8 million drawn by the card headlined by Omar Figueroa-Antonio DeMarco on Dec. 12. According to Nielsen, Saturday’s card, which went head-to-head with UFC Fight Night on Fox (2.5 million average), ranked 103rd out of 116 programs rated last week.

As I said, my interest is only on how many actual eyeballs were on the fighters. Just wanting to get a baseline comparison on that for now.

[Scipio2009]

Golovkin is willing to be the B-Side to get big fights. He was willing to be the B-Side to Froch, Canelo and even Chavez, willing to even go to Forch's hometown. Just to get the fights.

When has Ward ever considered surrendering anything to make a big fight?

He didn't want to fight Bute, the biggest name in the division in 2011, because he didn't 'prove himself'.

Then he demanded Golovkin move up to 168 and take a 50/50 split with him.

What I see is one guy willing to do what it takes to get big fights, the other guy is basically being a Diva.

Ward took actual dollars out of his pocket to make sure a fight got made, lol.

Bute, thinking he was the big **** at 168, chose to duck the Super Six, thinking that he'd cash in with a showdown against the Super Six champ (without having to fight anyone) and Ward would have none of it.

And the only reason that Ward is even talking about Golovkin is because Golovkin and his camp ran their mouths about whooping every fighter 154-168(Sanchez) and were chasing fights with super middleweights with no concern about fighting at 168; the 168 king steps forward, wanting to dead all this noise about Golovkin "whooping every fighter 154-168", and Golovkin's camp immediately runs to "we can't make the fight at 168 anymore (only to now be fine with fighting at 168 for Gilberto Ramirez).

gtfoh