Comments Thread For: Golden Boy VP: GGG Wants Canelo at 160, Refused Ward at 168!

[OnePunch]

Excellent question. I agree that is what should happen. Again, its the era we are in-star quality is more important than wins. In other eras, you got the most money for the best fights.

So if GGG can get an HBO deal by KOing lower level talent others are going to try and get the same thing. BJS can beat Eubank (who he would have a better chance then GGG) then just keep beating middle tier guys until a Canelo fight emerges or the GGG fight is bigger and he gets more. This was my point to Daddy T-we can't selectively get angry when this kind of stuff happens.

As long as the networks invest more in star building than making great fights this is always going to be the case. There is not a 160-168 lb boxer on earth that would fight an Andre ward over a Dominic Wade (not saying or implying GGG did this) if the purses are abut equal.

I would definietly agree with you there, as "legacy" tends to be the 4th or 5th thing on the list for promoters and managers these days.

I dont really blame HBO or Showtime, as they are simply broadcasters selling a product, and really only answer to their subscriber base. In the past most times they tried to make fights that "matter" like Calzaghe-Kessler and nobody but the hard-cores watched it.

[The Big Dunn]

I would definietly agree with you there, as "legacy" tends to be the 4th or 5th thing on the list for promoters and managers these days.

I dont really blame HBO or Showtime, as they are simply broadcasters selling a product, and really only answer to their subscriber base. In the past most times they tried to make fights that "matter" like Calzaghe-Kessler and nobody but the hard-cores watched it.

As sports becomes more and more about business instead of competition, legacy takes on a different meaning, especially in an era where social media functions to bring down sports stars rather than protect them as regular media did years ago.

I blame them. They are preventing certain fights from happening to protect stars and make fights more profitable through "marination". It's like "pushing an album back" in music.

[Shadoww702]

HBO Meeting: GGG said YES. Ward said NO. Not yet ready.

You call that a shameful duck? Two Divisions apart now, GGG still offered to meet somewhere in the middle, which would have been somewhat fair. Again, Ward declined with ridiculous demands.

Funny how some of you guys shlt on him for this but 154+1 aka CaneloWeight is ok? How many "Champs" demand a catchweight at the lowest possible weight for the class they hold a belt in?

Before Ward moved up he sent GGG an offer for 50/50 split. But K2 turned the offer down in five minutes and said maybe 2017. Ward moved up. Sanchez even on RECORD said that Ward doesn't bring enough money to the table for a fight. Typical risk wasn't worth the rewards tactic

[ShoulderRoll]

You're very special... everyone also here are dismissing Gomez's silly statement while you find it to be "good ammunition".

The point is many of you guys didn't dismiss the statement from Team GGG as silly when if happened. But now you are.

If Gomez wants to point out how there is no consistency and how double standards exist then he will have ample evidence to support his argument. That's all I'm saying.

[Shadoww702]

the problem is that a limited fighter like a BJS could easily lose to a Eubank (or worse) type fighter anyways, so why not take your shot? If someone is going to have a belt around their waist and call themselves a champion, they should not only be willing, but they should be EAGER, to fight any other champ in that division.

That's why I don't think GGG wants the belts as bad as he says they do. The fight didn't happen because of $2.5 million difference. They should of just piad Saunders $4 million and took his belt. Now who knows how long it's gonna take to get the WBO belt. If ever. And NO I don't think Saunders is worth $4 million or is any good. But if it's truly the belt then that was his beat shot.

[KillaMane26]

I don't agree at all. Greatness isn't defined by being champions in multiple weights. Hagler and Pep are two guys who are of the absolute upper tier of ATG lists and both men built their careers in a single division, even when that division didn't offer the best competition. Yet, several times, they both proved to be a level above the people in their weight divisions.

It's what GGG is doing now.

Thank you...let me buy you a beer. I thought the only one.who.understand you cant hold it against dudes for not moving when and cuz we want them to

[KillaMane26]

As long as they fight everybody in THEIR DIVISION

[HeroBando]

The point is many of you guys didn't dismiss the statement from Team GGG as silly when if happened. But now you are.

If Gomez wants to point out how there is no consistency and how double standards exist then he will have ample evidence to support his argument. That's all I'm saying.

There's no double standard, dummy. Canelo is The MW champ, Ggg is his mando. Ggg never demanded to defend any SMw belt vs mando at 161, nobody ever has before this chump

[soul_survivor]

As long as they fight everybody in THEIR DIVISION

That's what I look for too. Now, we need less GGG v Wade/Ishida type guys but he has managed to have fights with Macklin, Murray, Geale, Lem and effectively cleared out a specific group of top MWs. In reality, there's only about 2 or 3 names left now, Saunders, Canelo and one of Lee or Jacobs. It's not his fault if some of those names refuse to fight him.

[kafkod]

The point is many of you guys didn't dismiss the statement from Team GGG as silly when if happened. But now you are.

If Gomez wants to point out how there is no consistency and how double standards exist then he will have ample evidence to support his argument. That's all I'm saying.

It's only double standards if you take a different stance on identical situations when it suites you.

The two situations referred to here .. GGG vs Ward and GGG vs Canelo, are completely different.

Golovkin was not holding a title in Ward's division and trying to defend it against him one pound above the SMW limit in a mandated fight.