Abel Sanchez insists GGG can make 154 for Floyd, but wont for Canelo and explains why

[Larry the boss]

He shouldnt have to drop to fight another middleweight champion

and they sound pathetic constantly talking about Mayweather

[gmc_rfc_06]

It's whatever at this stage.

Canelo is not the one that needs the fight and he has given up weight and money advantages in the past to secure big fights.

Golovkin/Sanchez can hold firm and not budge an inch and continue fighting guys like Wade or fighting for vacant titles. Different weight rules for different opponents, but ultimately he's 34 years old with no important fights.

[j0zef]

so many fighters concede to become a star....Canelo is the star....I could see if he was a lard azz....GGG can make 155....hell he was 160 a month ago....5 pounds in a month is nothing.

I wrestled in high school and boxed in my 20s....Ive had to lose 5 pounds in less than a week and sometimes 2-3 days....IJS

Call canaelos bluff, kick his ass, get the belt, and enjoy the spoils. No one can criticuze him then

Because an out of shape amateur in his 20s is the same as a 34 year old who has stayed in the same ripped shape for ~3 years now?

[j0zef]

It's whatever at this stage.

Canelo is not the one that needs the fight and he has given up weight and money advantages in the past to secure big fights.

Golovkin/Sanchez can hold firm and not budge an inch and continue fighting guys like Wade or fighting for vacant titles. Different weight rules for different opponents, but ultimately he's 34 years old with no important fights.

Canelo gave up weight once to Floyd. He gave up 2 lbs when he was 23.

This is the same Floyd that Golovkin offered to drain himself 6 pounds for, even though he's 34 already.

[Razcal26]

You know what the ****** thing in all this is?

Everyone here knows damn well that if Floyd agrees to fight GGG at 154, he ain't doing it for nothing. All the MW straps GGG is carrying will be on the line so Floyd can become a 6 weight champ.

Just think about that...... Gennady "Middleweight belts should be fought at the Middleweight limit" Golovkin fight Floyd at 154 for his WBA, IBF, IBO Middleweight belts.

Just funny to me.

[FeFist]

Fuck both of them.

I don't blame Golovkin for sticking to his guns on Canelo fighting him at 160lb. They're both middleweights and Canelo is the middleweight champion.

He steps off his high horse when he starts talking about a fight with a retired welterweight and fighting Froch at 172lb. When those names come up, the question becomes why not Ward. If he's willing to step out of the middleweight division, and he wants to prove he is the best, why not take on the biggest challenge.

He's no different to every other boxer in the sport. After the high risk, low reward fights.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Canelo gave up weight once to Floyd. He gave up 2 lbs when he was 23.

This is the same Floyd that Golovkin offered to drain himself 6 pounds for, even though he's 34 already.

Yeah, and he gave up an 80/20 split to get Cotto. His two biggest fights, he's had to compromise.

This is also the same Floyd who is now well retired, about to be 40 and had fought at 154 twice in 20 years, both times against relatively small 154lb fighters.

154 for retired Mayweather, not below 160 for Canelo.

172 for Froch (also retired, and about to be 40), but not above 164 for Ward.

I've lost interest now tbh, he can do whatever and continue knocking out guys like Wade.

[HeroBando]

Yeah, and he gave up an 80/20 split to get Cotto. His two biggest fights, he's had to compromise.

This is also the same Floyd who is now well retired, about to be 40 and had fought at 154 twice in 20 years, both times against relatively small 154lb fighters.

154 for retired Mayweather, not below 160 for Canelo.

172 for Froch (also retired, and about to be 40), but not above 164 for Ward.

I've lost interest now tbh, he can do whatever and continue knocking out guys like Wade.

I don't think they're interested in 172 for Froch, at least that's what Loeffler said. 154 for Floyd, 168 for Froch, that's been on offer well before they retired. Most accommodating.

Canelo is still being offered a CW, he'll just have to drop the belt first. 155 to unify 3 belts and lineal is an insult to the sport. Odd you don't see a problem with that

[j0zef]

Yeah, and he gave up an 80/20 split to get Cotto. His two biggest fights, he's had to compromise.

This is also the same Floyd who is now well retired, about to be 40 and had fought at 154 twice in 20 years, both times against relatively small 154lb fighters.

154 for retired Mayweather, not below 160 for Canelo.

172 for Froch (also retired, and about to be 40), but not above 164 for Ward.

I've lost interest now tbh, he can do whatever and continue knocking out guys like Wade.

Good job pretending everything I said wasn't true and trying a different argument.
Golovkin has called out Floyd in 2013, the same year Canelo fought him. Since then, both Floyd has talked **** and Golovkins team has talked ****. Let's not pretend that Golovkin started calling out a 40 year old Floyd after retirement.

They've said they're open to a CW fight with Canelo, after he drops the belt. So him not being open to it is plain false.

Froch is just talking crap. When the actual discussions were taking place, they were for 168.

Ward only at 164 is a lie. When Golovkin wanted to fight at 168, when he wasnt well known, Ward turned him down. When they started talking again in early 2015, Ward wanted multiple tune ups first, at 168, with 50/50. Golovkins team knew they has Cotto/Canelo possibility and couldn't make the commitment. The quote from Loeffler was "we offered 50/50 on weight and money, but they said they wanted tune ups."

Ward never wanted this fight seriously and acted like an *******, hence Golovkin said "as a man, you're dead to me".

[ADP02]

GGG shouldn't have to go down to 154 nor 155 if he does not want to.

2 JMW title holders fighting at 152? This happened

2 MW title holders fighting at 155? I will watch for sure but what would it really mean if GGG loses?

Canelo struggles to get down to this new division at 155. So I would prefer to wait until Canelo fights at 160.