Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: I'm Not a Fan of Golovkin, I Respect Canelo

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  • ThatDude44
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    #121
    Originally posted by Chuckguy
    When did he sign to fight kovo? I didn't hear of that. Only thing I've heard is that he needs 2-3 more fights haha
    Keep hating idiot
    Well its included in his contract with HBO that he signed which is why his next bout has to happen before like 7/31 or something. I bet you are well aware that Golovkin-Wade was finalized. Ooooh, the drama.

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    • Eastcoast
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      #122
      Ward always sounding pissy. He's being bitter because he had to move a weight division (which he still cuts weight for) and fight guys his own size. The fact that he's supporting Canelo, when Canelo's under heat to vacate or fight Golovkin, makes him sound desperate for attention and support.

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      • OnePunch
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        #123
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Ok, semantics. You win. Change we know its true (which of course we do) to it's my opinion that Ward today is not as shot as ODH was in the Manny fight. I think most share this opinion, including you, as you haven't disagreed with it, just how I worded it.

        It is my opinion GGG isn't as good as Manny was when he fought ODH. GGG has not fought or defeated anywhere near the caliber of opponents Manny had to this point in his career. You seem to disagree, but haven't outright said it, just passively aggressively say that's a matter of opinion.
        those are 2 separate issues. One issue is based on opinion / analysis of talent, and the other is based on resume. Neither is a perfect measure. Pac was very fortunate in that back then alot of people thought he was quite beatable, therefore fights were relatively easy to make. Remember the outrage when Pac-DLH got made and everyone thought Pac would get ghouled (myself included)?? Most of these so-called "champs" in and around 160 have no such illusions about their ability to beat GGG. If they did, those fights could get made......
        Last edited by OnePunch; 04-22-2016, 01:29 PM.

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        • M Bison
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          #124
          Originally posted by Chuckguy
          Yet ward stans who are converted Floyd fans talk sh it about GGG and fighting bums but ward is doing the same thing but even worst by making guys jump weight classes. Where is the outrage there?? Of course not because he is black I'm not a racist but u call it the way I see it
          I think some are very stringent with their bias because he is the same nationality as them it's either that or like you said the skin colour issue lol.

          I just don't get it even If I was a Yank I'd not like Ward we're all forgetting he failed in court and inevitably through that he wasted precious time of someone who was on borrowed times life just because Ward thought he was owed something which he wasn't.
          No apology to Dan's family from Ward for that such a lovely religious guy, right?

          Makes me want to vomit this angle he is going on is pathetic.

          Ward is too much of a gossiping diva for anyone to really take him seriously imo not how someone should act If you're wanting to be popular.

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          • Chuckguy
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            #125
            Originally posted by ThatDude44
            Well its included in his contract with HBO that he signed which is why his next bout has to happen before like 7/31 or something. I bet you are well aware that Golovkin-Wade was finalized. Ooooh, the drama.
            It's a shi t fight but me unlike you I call a spade a spade. I'm not a hater just. A realist.

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            • OnePunch
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              #126
              Originally posted by NaijaD
              Everything you said applies to GG also, the Olympic middleweight class limit is 165 which is effectively SMW, so why is Golovkin at 160 then and not 168?

              Ward turned pro at 160, he only competed at LHW in the olympics to accommodate Andre Dirrell who was also a talented fighter at MW. You probably already know this...

              This whole Canelo situation will rightfully bite GGG and his team in the a$$, I've being telling people from day that this fight will not happen till Golden Boy want it to and that's when they feel it is winnable. The Canelo fight is not about the belts, it's GGGs best and easily most winnable bet to become a star. This is why they will probably wait as long as it takes. That belt without Canelo is just another sanctioning fee he has to pay.

              hey dummy in case you didnt know, amateurs have same-day weigh-ins, so pretty much EVERYONE turns pro at a lower weight than they fought at in the ams........

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                #127
                Originally posted by _Maxi
                Bigger man, yes. Bigger fighter, no. GGG doesn't need clinch and headbutts on difficult matches to survive. GGG wins clearly. If GGG loses to Ward it's mainly cuz of size.
                Keep telling yourself that.

                You Golovkin fans can spew whatever garbage you'd like because you know that Gennady will never fight Ward. EVER. So you don't have to worry about being proven wrong like you were with Pacquiao.

                Will go to 154 for Mayweather, but won't go to 155 for Canelo. 168 for Chavez Jr and Froch, but not 168 for Ward. He has to cut down to 164. Won't even entertain a Lara fight, but will fight the Willie Monroes and Dominic Wades of the world.

                You can't make this **** up!

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                  #128
                  Ward sounds butthurt in all honesty here

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                  • ThatDude44
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Chuckguy
                    It's a shi t fight but me unlike you I call a spade a spade. I'm not a hater just. A realist.
                    Meaning what? I'm supposed to hate on Ward for tune-ups that lead us to a Kovalev fight? If he's fighting Paul and Barrera with no prize for us at the end then yeah, I have a problem. With Kovalev being the end game you're darn right I dont have a problem.
                    Last edited by ThatDude44; 04-22-2016, 01:35 PM.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by OnePunch
                      those are 2 separate issues. One issue is based on opinion / analysis of talent, and the other is based on resume. Neither is a perfect measure. Pac was very fortunate in that back then alot of people thought he was quite beatable, therefore fights were relatively easy to make. Remember the outrage when Pac-DLH got made and everyone thought Pac would get ghouled (myself included)?? Most of these so-called "champs" in and around 160 have no such illusions about their ability to beat GGG. If they did, those fights could get made......
                      I made a grip off that fight because so many people foolishly IMO thought ODH would beat Manny solely because they knew ODH and liked his image.

                      Ward is younger, healthier and better than ODH was at that stage. Ward, if not for the inactivity, would be #1 p4p. He remains highly respected.

                      Anything can happen. That's why I wish the fight happened.

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