Comments Thread For: Golovkin on Canelo: Show Me Who's Number 1, Who's The Best

[BoxingFan85]

Canelo is at the centre of their plans. They are not going anywhere.

Canelo-GGG isn't a question of 'if', it's a question of 'when'.

Also add what weight to the list of questions.. Btw, Canelo has a rematch clause as expected with Khan, so if Canelo loses or if it's one heck of a the fight though we'd we damned if it will be the case, they might fight again.. So 2017, or may be 2018 if Canelo vacates it for GGG

[Bronx2245]

Still defending this disgrace, I see. Again dummy, they have no problem fighting Canelo at a CW, but not while this fraud is carrying a MW belt. Besides team Canelo isn't even gonna bluff with 155, they don't want it at all

You're still supporting GGG staying @ 160, which means you support GGG not fighting Canelo until maybe 2017. I want to see this fight this fall! Hey, but at least GGG will have all the belts!

[rckdees]

Golovkin is absolutely right it's very disrespectful to the sport to all the great champions to all the great fighters who fought for the championship and to all real boxing fans who recognized those great fighters and that's exactly why that clown will NEVER be a ppv star never mind being a great champion. This clown has been coddled and breastfeed his whole career and because of his ******rial relationship with the WBC he thinks he has sense of entitlement he'll soon realize boxing is the wrong sport for that

[Bronx2245]

There is a big difference, Floyd is a WELTERWEIGHT, AND fighting Floyd and beating him is like hitting the jackpot.

If Floyd is worthy for 154, it doesn't mean Groundskeeper Willie (Simpsons) is for 155, or f@ckin Austin Trout at 157 or whatever.

Without Mayweather in the game, Canelo is the cash cow! The jackpot is not as big, but it is a hell of a lot bigger than anything GGG has seen. Pretty simple, GGG is fighting a guy with 18 fights, on HBO (No PPV). Canelo is fighting Amir Khan on PPV, and it will sell! Is Amir Khan a big threat? No. Is Amir Khan a better opponent than Dominic Wade? Hell Yeah! Is Trout a better opponent than Dominic Wade? Hell Yeah? What about Lara? Hell Yeah! What about Cotto? You already know!

[Bronx2245]

Cotto won't ask a ridiculous 155 CW, was 159 against Martinez.

Jacobs would be a great fight.

I guess high risk/low reward since Jacobs can crack as hell 28kos/31 wins.
Dude blew out Kid chocolate like nothing.

Jacobs should call him out, but I guess he wants to milk that belt before getting a possible new Pirog like beating even if Jacobs is a different man by now.

Jacobs is very loyal to Showtime and Al Haymon. GGG is signed to HBO. If HBO and Haymon can make peace, they can make the GGG vs. Jacobs fight. Cotto wants no part of GGG. Weight is not the issue. GGG is in a bad spot! I believe he would be a superstar by now if he were with Arum, Oscar, or Haymon. He missed on Ward. He should learn from his mistakes!

[HeroBando]

You're still supporting GGG staying @ 160, which means you support GGG not fighting Canelo until maybe 2017. I want to see this fight this fall! Hey, but at least GGG will have all the belts!

No I support him dropping to CW for a challenger, or going up for a 168, but not going down to 155 for 3 MW belts + lineal. That would be just disgusting, cong**** on supporting that.

[Mike_R]

GREAT POST.

I disagree about GGG vs Floyd.


Floyd doesn't have the strenght and power to clinch, spoil and keep at bay GGG's ass.
Or maybe a 154 pounds drained zombie like GGG...
GGG hurting 175 pounders with sparring gloves.

GGG has the perfect style to beat Floyd :
Effective agression, shifting, short crisp punches, strong balance, great at cutting off the ring, a strong jab that would totally disturb Floyd.



This fight wouldn't be competitive.

I hear you, and I could see it playing out that way as well. But I think it's a 99% fantasy-fight at this point. And if GGG did just go in and bully Floyd to pieces it would also just solidify the idea of it being kind a garbage match up. 147 I felt was always a pretty big weight for Floyd. All of Floyd's 154 fights were somewhat disingenuous since he never came in the ring much over 151-152 lbs. I think Floyd's true ceiling is right there at 147. If GGG drained down to 154 I think Floyd could make it look like the Canelo fight.

I could see GGG ending his career at 168. I think he is probably a bit small for light heavyweight though? Unless he fights the right guy at 175 who also isn't the biggest LHW around.

He looks like the same size as Canelo to me. That's a big part of what drives me crazy. Canelo may even have the bigger frame.

[Chuckguy]

CW's and calling out WWs is his style. You'd think he'd like Canelo.

Name one fight where he fought at a CW you pathetic hater?
Just one
It's ok I'll wait...

[BillyBoxing]

Without Mayweather in the game, Canelo is the cash cow! The jackpot is not as big, but it is a hell of a lot bigger than anything GGG has seen. Pretty simple, GGG is fighting a guy with 18 fights, on HBO (No PPV). Canelo is fighting Amir Khan on PPV, and it will sell! Is Amir Khan a big threat? No. Is Amir Khan a better opponent than Dominic Wade? Hell Yeah! Is Trout a better opponent than Dominic Wade? Hell Yeah? What about Lara? Hell Yeah! What about Cotto? You already know!

Yes but Wade is fighting at 160 just like any middleweight.

Khan isn't, Canelo isn't, Trout isn't, Lara isn't.

Wade has 18 fight as a pro but has the record along with ODLH of silver gloves won in the US amateur.
I'm not sure about Kahn being a better opponent for a 160 title shot, dude is big, that's the middleweights.
Remember Oscar vs Sturm who was a nobody.

[Bronx2245]

No I support him dropping to CW for a challenger, or going up for a 168, but not going down to 155 for 3 MW belts + lineal. That would be just disgusting, cong**** on supporting that.

April 20, 2016:

If Golovkin and Alvarez win as expected, the WBC has mandated that Alvarez defend its title in a unification showdown with Golovkin. It would be one of two fights that the public most wants to see, the other being the pairing of IBF/WBA/WBO light heavyweight champion Sergey Kovalev (29-0-1, 26 KOs) with former WBA and WBC super middleweight ruler Andre Ward (29-0, 15 KOs). But Alvarez has demanded that opponents seeking his title agree to meet him at a catch weight of 155 pounds, which would give the former WBC and WBA super welterweight ruler an advantage to which Golovkin, a full-fledged middleweight, and his team might be disinclined to consent.

“He is after the unification of all the (middleweight) belts,” said Sanchez in explaining why his fighter is obligated to fulfill his IBF mandatory against a relative unknown like Wade. “So if he doesn’t fight this fight, he’s going to lose that belt.”

Wade as a fill-in-the-blank kind of challenger to Golovkin is hardly a new development. This is Golovkin’s 16th title defense, but to date his reign has been devoid of anyone capable of forcing him to dig deep inside himself to find that something extra that elevates a fighter from very good to indisputably great. How’s this for a non-Murderer’s Row of the vanquished? Nilson Julio Tapia, Kassim Ouma, Lajuan Simon, Makota Fuchigami, Grzegorz Proksa, Gabriel Rosado, Nobuhiro Ishida, Matthew Macklin, Curtis Stevens, Osumanu Adama, Daniel Geale, Marco Antonio Rubio, Martin Murray, Willie Monroe Jr. and David Lemieux, good fighters all but hardly candidates for eventual enshrinement in the International Boxing Hall of Fame.

Golovkin might have the right stuff to join the list of immortals to which Sanchez referred, but even if he meets and defeats Alvarez – and any such meeting is hardly a certainty, given the details that figure to be included in the contractual fine print – the potential list of plums to be picked mostly consists of low-hanging fruit. Would a unification fight against the WBO champ, England’s Billy Joe Saunders (23-0, 12 KOs) fire the public’s imagination? What about a date with the WBA’s “regular” titlist, Daniel Jacobs (31-1, 28 KOs)? Or former WBO ruler Andy Lee (34-3, 24 KOs), of Ireland? All would be pronounced underdogs against “GGG,” Alvarez somewhat less so.

It thus falls to fight fans to imagine how Golovkin might fare against the sort of legends who, unfortunately for him, came along at a time when their careers and his did not intersect. It thus is difficult to place Golovkin on the lofty plateau reserved for Harry Greb, Stanley Ketchel, Sugar Ray Robinson, Carlos Monzon, Marvelous Marvin Hagler, Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins when your career boils down to too many Alabama-vs.-Charleston Southern routs.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...-his-supremacy

Enjoy the GGG vs. Dominic Wade fight! Have a "good" weekend. I'm going to have a "great" weekend.