Comments Thread For: Kovalev's Promoter Reacts To Statements From Stevenson

[robbyheartbaby]

Stevenson is

a) irrelevant
b) still a piece of ****.

He can retire or fight more 3rd grade bums and nobody cares.

Kovalev is the man in the division.

Haha I don't think there is anything more to be said!

[PunchyPotorff]

Can't believe we're at the exact same situation since 2013.. what a shame to boxing. Why not simply fight ? From what I read From Yvon Michel, they asked them 50/50 AND proposed to air on Showtime AND Hbo . Duva declined, saying it could only be on HBO. Really ? ? Stop that bull**** and show some respect to the fans. Freaking Duva, Freaking Yvon Michel. ..

I think Duva just doesn't wanna do anything to potentially rock the boat with HBO. She sees it as a really big deal... which I really don't blame her.

Two critical junctures in this mess:
2014, Stevenson leaves for Showtime instead of fighting Kovalev on HBO.
2015, Kovalev signs a contract with HBO instead of fighting Stevenson on PBC.
Everything else is worthless promoter speak.

So, in your mind, somehow everything is all-one-way or all-the-other-way. No in between? OK friend.

All this time I thought Stevenson was ducking. If you don't want to make it 50/50 then shut up. Don't be mad that Stevenson is getting good money fighting for Haymon. Step your game up and accept 50/50 so this fight can be made.

******man was offered 50/50 for a fight that should have happened in June. Then he threw in more demands that wouldn't work, and he knew they wouldn't work. Let the guy fight cans for a couple years, retire, then give his belt to Kov. That's the real champ anyway.

[TheThirdEye]

I think it is because Kovalev must fight on HBO as per his contract, whereas Stevenson can fight on either network. Unfortunately the powers that be render a purse bid useless. At the end of the day Stevenson could have fought on HBO against Kovalev and accepted 50/50, but chose not to.

50% of what, Do you know what maximizing the revenu means?

[TheThirdEye]

At the end of the day I don't know why people ignore that Duva backed out of a freaking purse bid. This is a fact.... Why do people ignore this??

Edit: In that case it was Kovalev's side that stopped the fight from happening, obviously Stevenson's side has caused their fair share of issues but this can't just be chalked up as Stevenson being scared. This is clearly just bs boxing politics not fighters being scared of each other.

It's strange how most of them ignore facts, I mean Truth:

"Power don't come from a badge or a gun. Power comes from lying. Lying big and getting the whole damn world to play along with you. Once you've got everybody agreeing with what they know in their hearts ain't true you've got 'em by the balls."

*Oh! by the way, there's a term for that, we call them followers...

[TheThirdEye]

Kovalev never had any intention of fighting Stevenson, and never will. Hand over the belts.

You right about that, that's how it looks when you do the opposite of lying.

[TheThirdEye]

Stevenson vs Pascal not happening was a huge disappointment for Montreal fans, who fill up stadiums whenever fight events are shown, MMA, UFC, Boxing, Thai boxing, you name it.

Both guys are of Haitian descent, speak French, live in Quebec. You can imagine the clamor from the locals. This is like Khan vs Brook in the UK.

Unfortunately, Stevenson wanted none of Pascal who would have accepted any term Stevenson threw at him.

Pascal would have accepted any term Stevenson threw at him; REALLY.
30% was already on table for Pascal in a mandatory shot against Stevenson, and Pascal called Stevenson with any name he could made up in his mind, change promoter and setup a deal with Duva for 42% of Kovalev purse. As a politician, Jean Pascal use his mouth to raise his revenu, a lot of **** could come out.
Hey, you can pilled up a thousand lie together, it will never change the truth...
*(Pascal would have accepted any term) REALLY...

[TheThirdEye]

So has the possibility of the fight "sailed" or just the possibility of "50/50" sailed?

April 15, 2015:

Just when it looked like the path was relatively clear for the light heavyweight unification showdown between champion Adonis Stevenson and three-belt owner Sergey Kovalev, a big wrench was thrown in the plans on Tuesday.

The fight is by far the most anticipated in the 175-pound weight class, but the chances that it comes off this fall as many hoped were greatly diminished when Main Events CEO Kathy Duva, Kovalev's promoter, decided against participating in a WBC-mandated purse bid on Friday in Mexico City...

But after Stevenson (26-1, 21 KOs), 37, of Montreal, retained the title by one-sided decision against Sakio Bika on April 4, he and promoter Yvon Michel, whom Kovalev and Duva had accused of ducking the fight, professed their desire to make the match, be it to negotiate terms or let it go to a purse bid, where the promoter with the biggest offer would win the promotional rights.

Then Duva announced that she would not participate in the bidding process, which came as a surprise considering how much she dogged Stevenson for supposedly avoiding the fight.

Duva, the one who initially suggested that the WBC make Kovalev the mandatory at the organization's annual convention late last year, said that while she and Kovalev very much want to make the fight, Kovalev is under exclusive contract to HBO, which would not allow him to fight on another network...

Most believe that if the fight did go a purse bid, Main Events would have no prayer of winning because even if HBO backed the bid it would not be enough to beat Haymon, whose PBC investor war chest is believed to be worth far more than $100 million.

On Tuesday, Duva sent a letter to the WBC and to Michel advising them that she was withdrawing from the purse bid. Had the fight gone to the bid, the fighters would have split the winning figure 50-50 and the winning promoter would control all aspects of the promotion, including all the revenue streams and determining when, where and on what television network the bout would take place...

Michel said he was disappointed in Duva's decision and the she was "playing games."

"They asked to be the mandatory. They asked for a 50-50 split if we don't come to an agreement and we went along with that," Michel told ESPN.com. "Adonis does not have a contract with Showtime, but we are affiliated with Showtime and PBC but we managed to arrange that if we were going to lose the purse bid we could have gone on HBO and we thought it was the same on their side...

"Sergey has a contract with HBO and he will be fighting on HBO. If Adonis doesn't want to do that, God bless him," she told ESPN.com. "Sergey is the best light heavyweight in the world. If Adonis wants to prove he's the best he's going to have to fight Sergey and he's going to have to do it on terms that are doable under Sergey's HBO contract."

Not so fast, Michel said.

"Bring the proposal from HBO and I bring a proposal from a PBC-affiliated network and we go where it has the most value," he said. "I'm willing to negotiate but she has to be willing to maximize the revenue. If she doesn't want to do that then stop trying to make everyone believe we tried to avoid Kovalev. When the WBC decided to name the winner of Kovalev-Pascal the mandatory we were on board and we are not backing out. Let's go with the network that can put up the most money."

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...urse-bid-order

Nice job, at least you're not a follower...

[brettWall]

Stevenson vs Pascal not happening was a huge disappointment for Montreal fans, who fill up stadiums whenever fight events are shown, MMA, UFC, Boxing, Thai boxing, you name it.

Both guys are of Haitian descent, speak French, live in Quebec. You can imagine the clamor from the locals. This is like Khan vs Brook in the UK.

Unfortunately, Stevenson wanted none of Pascal who would have accepted any term Stevenson threw at him.

Stevenson is the opposite of Brook who doesn't mind being the B-side of Khan even though Kell is the title holder. In this case, Brook is the one begging for the fight because of the obvious business advantage of it.

We'll really never know what Quackenson wants. He's full of **** and inconsistencies.

[TheThirdEye]

F#ck me, I agree with Duva. Duva says a million weird or nutty things, but this ain't one of them.

Stevenson needs to quit living in fantasy land already. He's diminished his value with his last year & a half or whatever of his career. When Kovalev is training for Ward, Stevenson is most likely going to be fresh from a W over Edwin Rodriguez lol. That pretty much explains this situation.

Stevenson need to start saying he's good with 40/60 or 30/70 & to call Haymon if he wants Kov or just continue fighting bs guys for a million+. He can probably spread out another 5-6 wins over the next 3 years & knock down $5M+. Thats not a bad retirement pension.

You see Duva's little games, always lying, setting deadlines, creating fake lawsuits for no sign contracts or screaming HBO exclusivity right when Kovalev can fight out of his TV contract. Why Stevenson would agree to accept 40% or 30%. 40% of what purse, of what total amount, from who?
I know you're a firm believer of Kovalev, not Main Events nor Klimas. But you're still part of the few who wants to see this fight happening; but don't let your jugement clouded by Duva's tongue, she's a sociopath (a liars).

[Eff Pandas]

You see Duva's little games, always lying, setting deadlines, creating fake lawsuits for no sign contracts or screaming HBO exclusivity right when Kovalev can fight out of his TV contract. Why Stevenson would agree to accept 40% or 30%. 40% of what purse, of what total amount, from who?

I definitely agree she's above average wacky or below 100% honest when she talks, but its not like she's the only one.

I know you're a firm believer of Kovalev, not Main Events nor Klimas. But you're still part of the few who wants to see this fight happening; but don't let your jugement clouded by Duva's tongue, she's a sociopath (a liars).

I'm not in foggy judgment cuz of anything Duva has said. I see that a Ward fight in particular a W over Ward would give Kovalev more value in future fights. This happens for most of the guys we talk about here. Your value increases & decreases as you win titles or beat names or P4P guys or whatever. I mean if Ward somehow KOs Kovalev in 1 then Stevenson might be 60/40 or 70/30 at that point.

But I mean this is all speculation as you should get paid whatever you can convince the opposing side to give you, but if Kov fights Ward & beats him I for sure see him as deserving of a bigger cut vs Stevenson. If he gets it or demands it is another story.