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  • The plunger man
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    #71
    Originally posted by Vinnykin
    I didn't make any predictions for the Joshua-Martin fight what are you talking about? I gave a view of how BOTH guys could win after digging up low quality YT videos of Martin, many shot from the crowd lol I even said Joshua could hit him early then it's game over.....Moron you are. I'm paraphrasing but I said Martin would have to avoid getting hit clean and take him deep to win. That's an OBVIOUS gameplan vs Joshua, make him miss, tire him out and see how he is in the later rounds. You won't see me making predictions when I have seen so little of each fighters game. Joshua having shown very little in his 30 odd rounds of pro boxing

    That is possibly the worst breakdown I have ever read. You can't even compare someone like Klitschko with Joshua. I still don't know if Joshua has an inside game, can fight going backwards or has stamina past the 7th round. I have to see him in with fighters I rate highly and know about before I can honestly say he is the real deal or not. His footwork and head movement in the Whyte fight was amateur at best, he would have been destroyed by ANY top 5 HW in that fight. I refuse to believe he has jumped up to World level after beating Cornish, Whyte and Martin, none of whom I rate in my top 20 in the world. That's just common sense

    I can tell he is good but I won't jump on the bandwagon just yet. It's way too early to tell. I'll say the same thing after his next fight. I want to see him tested by someone I currently rate above him or around him. I think he is well in the top 10 at no.7 and I know all these guys get Ko'd, That's why I'm not interested in the fight. It's not because I am Anti-AJ or don't like the guy. I don't care about mismatches in boxing. He's a champion fighting a bum as a defence, would say the same if it was Fury make no mistake
    Klitchcko can't fight going backwards...has no head movement and simply throws and then leans on you....joshua is technically a better puncher and boxer than fury...he sits down on his punches and he Is accurate....and when he nails you he finishes you...quickly....now your talking about stamina...has joshau been beaten...has any fighter taken him beyond 7 rounds.....is it more than likely that when joshau catches you it's pretty much game over.....it's not gonna come down to a danceathon...it's goona come down to furys lack of fundamentals him dancing with his silly arms around his waist and then joshau timing him with one powerful right hand and then it's curtains....I never once said its gonna be a dancing match or 12 round boxing contest..it's gonna be short and gonna end bad for fury....getting dropped by 200lb fighter in cunningham will seem like he was punched with cotton wool compared to joshua.....the game plan will simply be to watch fury make a fool of himself dancing around clowning about and joshua will just patiently stalk him and when it's right he will nail him and it's lights out..that's the gameplan....he did it with Martin and he'll do the same to a guy that fights erratically and all over the shop..that's fury.....chisora and hammer wouldn't beat joshua if they faced both at the sa e time....and there's also a video by malik Scott talking about joshau being the boss over klitchcko when they was training together....and that's way before...now he has improved to world class level.....your the same person that picked Martin over him.....look what happened.....I doubt if fury can even move about at the moment him weighing 24 stone....that's bad conditioning and lack of dedication......don't write klitchcko off lol
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    • Vinnykin
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      #72
      Originally posted by Steve plunger
      This is your post for the matin joshua fight ....I trolled it

      I've watched all the fights I could dig up on Martin, I've also watched Joshua's last 5 fights and a couple others. I can't really make a call on this but I can make a case for both fighters winning.

      Martin has went the distance a few times and has a good % of ko's in the later rounds, I haven't seen him lose many rounds in any of the fights I've seen and he looks sharp in the later rounds, doesn't appear to tire at any point in his fights. He seems to work on reflexes and counter punch, he just reads guys well and tries to throw sharp and accurate punches with both hands. I think Martin is a bigger, slower David Haye in style at distance but that is where the similarity ends.

      Joshua has rushed out and pummelled guys and hasn't really sharpened any boxing skills or learned to pace himself like Martin has. His sheer size and power have been enough to get the job done very much like Wilder in most of his fights. After landing a stiff jab he just closes in and opens up, most of the guys haven't been good enough or big enough to cope with this and have been finished early. Joshua has very plodding footwork and no head or lateral movement, he doesn't box on his toes like Martin or Klitschko either or hasn't shown it as of yet, his reflexes and timing are not as good as a result, he doesn't look as sharp.

      I think if Martin can use his size and lateral movement as a defence, and time Joshua whenever he is in distance, he can outbox him in the early rounds and take Joshua into deep water. I believe him when he said he gets stronger as I've seen him still looking good or better in the later rounds. If it goes past 6 I think Martin will Ko him in the later rounds. If Joshua catches him and backs Martin up into the corner or the ropes then we know what will happen, Joshua will let go and could finish him, Martin needs to survive these exchanges and counter to stop Joshua trying this, preferably not get caught or hurt to begin with. Joshua's best chance is to finish him early because he won't beat Martin with the jab or relying on boxing from distance.

      I heard David Haye saying that he was told from trusted sources that Martin doesn't lose rounds in sparring, I don't think Joshua will outbox him and win rounds from what I've seen.

      I'm going to go for Martin by Ko around round 9.....But I'll hold my hands up if joshua does manage to Ko him early. It's his only chance and 1 punch could turn it around at any tiime
      Again. I couldn't make a prediction on the fight with so little to go on. I literally dug up crappy YT videos of Martin and just threw an analysis out there based on what little I'd seen. It was an uneducated guess highlighted at the start: "I can't really make a call on this but I can make a case for both fighters winning"

      Any time someone starts with saying they have dug up videos on a fighter and can't make a call..... Take it with a pinch of salt and not a solid prediction

      Moron

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      • The plunger man
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        #73
        Originally posted by Steve plunger
        This is your post for the matin joshua fight ....I trolled it

        I've watched all the fights I could dig up on Martin, I've also watched Joshua's last 5 fights and a couple others. I can't really make a call on this but I can make a case for both fighters winning.

        Martin has went the distance a few times and has a good % of ko's in the later rounds, I haven't seen him lose many rounds in any of the fights I've seen and he looks sharp in the later rounds, doesn't appear to tire at any point in his fights. He seems to work on reflexes and counter punch, he just reads guys well and tries to throw sharp and accurate punches with both hands. I think Martin is a bigger, slower David Haye in style at distance but that is where the similarity ends.

        Joshua has rushed out and pummelled guys and hasn't really sharpened any boxing skills or learned to pace himself like Martin has. His sheer size and power have been enough to get the job done very much like Wilder in most of his fights. After landing a stiff jab he just closes in and opens up, most of the guys haven't been good enough or big enough to cope with this and have been finished early. Joshua has very plodding footwork and no head or lateral movement, he doesn't box on his toes like Martin or Klitschko either or hasn't shown it as of yet, his reflexes and timing are not as good as a result, he doesn't look as sharp.

        I think if Martin can use his size and lateral movement as a defence, and time Joshua whenever he is in distance, he can outbox him in the early rounds and take Joshua into deep water. I believe him when he said he gets stronger as I've seen him still looking good or better in the later rounds. If it goes past 6 I think Martin will Ko him in the later rounds. If Joshua catches him and backs Martin up into the corner or the ropes then we know what will happen, Joshua will let go and could finish him, Martin needs to survive these exchanges and counter to stop Joshua trying this, preferably not get caught or hurt to begin with. Joshua's best chance is to finish him early because he won't beat Martin with the jab or relying on boxing from distance.

        I heard David Haye saying that he was told from trusted sources that Martin doesn't lose rounds in sparring, I don't think Joshua will outbox him and win rounds from what I've seen.

        I'm going to go for Martin by Ko around round 9.....But I'll hold my hands up if joshua does manage to Ko him early. It's his only chance and 1 punch could turn it around at any tiime
        Joshua's gameplan was patient against Martin and when the time came he nailed him...that's exactly what he will do with fury.....I'm not saying joshau is proven...far from it...what I'm saying is he has more than enough to spark out fury...just wait and see

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          #74
          Originally posted by Steve plunger
          Klitchcko can't fight going backwards...has no head movement and simply throws and then leans on you....joshua is technically a better puncher and boxer than fury...he sits down on his punches and he Is accurate....and when he nails you he finishes you...quickly....now your talking about stamina...has joshau been beaten...has any fighter taken him beyond 7 rounds.....is it more than likely that when joshau catches you it's pretty much game over.....it's not gonna come down to a danceathon...it's goona come down to furys lack of fundamentals him dancing with his silly arms around his waist and then joshau timing him with one powerful right hand and then it's curtains....I never once said its gonna be a dancing match or 12 round boxing contest..it's gonna be short and gonna end bad for fury....getting dropped by 200lb fighter in cunningham will seem like he was punched with cotton wool compared to joshua.....the game plan will simply be to watch fury make a fool of himself dancing around clowning about and joshua will just patiently stalk him and when it's right he will nail him and it's lights out..that's the gameplan....he did it with Martin and he'll do the same to a guy that fights erratically and all over the shop..that's fury.....chisora and hammer wouldn't beat joshua if they faced both at the sa e time....and there's also a video by malik Scott talking about joshau being the boss over klitchcko when they was training together....and that's way before...now he has improved to world class level.....your the same person that picked Martin over him.....look what happened.....I doubt if fury can even move about at the moment him weighing 24 stone....that's bad conditioning and lack of dedication......don't write klitchcko off lol
          I can't reply to that mess, It literally hurts my brain to read your posts.


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            #75
            Originally posted by Steve plunger
            ....and there's also a video by malik Scott talking about joshau being the boss over klitchcko when they was training together....and that's way before...now he has improved to world class level.....
            Do you have a link to this video?

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            • The plunger man
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              #76
              I'll find it ....it's on YouTube

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                #77
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Do you have a link to this video?
                Here the link bro.... I don't think people realise just what a talent this joshua is....either way he is good for the division and when he reaches his full potential people better take notice..

                http://********/qy0XL6Y8keE

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                  #78
                  Stiverne has the most experience of the three & might give Joshua some good work. Then again, Joshua might retire Stiverne.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Steve plunger
                    Here the link bro.... I don't think people realise just what a talent this joshua is....either way he is good for the division and when he reaches his full potential people better take notice..

                    http://********/qy0XL6Y8keE
                    Thanks for that. Interesting comments there from Malik Scott.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Beyonce Bomber
                      Arreola's shot to bits and was awful to begin with. That fight would be over in a round. Not an exaggeration.
                      Nah, I'd put money on him hurting Hypejob. Chris can actually box and has power. I'd love seeing this fight.

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