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  • The plunger man
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    #61
    Originally posted by Vinnykin
    A grand, 5 grand, whatever. I won't believe it until I meet you face to face, no BS talk on a forum yeah, I'll be there at the event (if it happens, numbers are easily PM'd before, If I think you're serious I'll carry whatever we agree)

    All that means nothing. I don't give 2 ****s about who the bookies have as favourite. I'm already looking at putting a bet on for that fight. I hope Joshua Ko's Stiverne and the hype builds even more. The bigger the odds the better.

    You actually never gave one good breakdown of how Joshua beats Fury just the usual casual talk. He beats 3 guys in a row not even in the top 20 in any one's list and you think he beats the top 5-10? He hasn't even fought near that level yet or went past 7 rounds. If you're fooled by someone with his record, someone that hasn't shown any other side to their game, then I can't help you

    Sure he can't negotiate with David Haye or Wilder in a month....he has an important fight against Stiverne he NEEDS to jump into straight away! please
    I don't have to give a breakdown on how joshua beats him..but I will ...well fundamentally he is a better puncher and boxer....he sets himself on his feet and lands...he's accurate and he is a quick combination puncher....he simply walks through fury because he has all the physical tools to simply override what fury can do....moving his arms by his side and throwing 15 powder puff punches are not gonna be enough to stop joshua getting to him and landing on his chin...hell he did it to klitchcko but joshua is not 40 and klitchcko is alo a terrible combination puncher.....one punch at a time programmed....I was reading all your ****** predictions on the joshau - Martin fight and was pissing myself with laughter with ur opinions....physically him and joshua match up....size wise there's not much difference...exact same size as klicthcko is joshau who is 6'6 ..83inch reach but unlike klitchcko he's not past his sell by date and he will come after fury and nail him to the canvas....joshau all day long son

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    • BrometheusBob.
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      #62
      Breazeale is doodoo. Molina is meh. I'd like to see him fight Stiverne.

      Breazeale seriously doesn't deserve a title shot after that ugly showing against Mansour.

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      • Fury4daWIN
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        #63
        Originally posted by Camp Beast
        Arreola would be a fun matchup and would definitely interest us fight fans.
        Arreola's shot to bits and was awful to begin with. That fight would be over in a round. Not an exaggeration.

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          #64
          Joshua vs Stiverne will be a great fight

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            #65
            Originally posted by sammybee
            Joshua vs Stiverne will be a great fight
            If Josh wants an experience building fight he needs to get Duhaupas in there. Stiverne has the potential to just turn up and get blown out. With Duhaupas you always know what you're gonna get.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Steve plunger
              I don't have to give a breakdown on how joshua beats him..but I will ...well fundamentally he is a better puncher and boxer....he sets himself on his feet and lands...he's accurate and he is a quick combination puncher....he simply walks through fury because he has all the physical tools to simply override what fury can do....moving his arms by his side and throwing 15 powder puff punches are not gonna be enough to stop joshua getting to him and landing on his chin...hell he did it to klitchcko but joshua is not 40 and klitchcko is alo a terrible combination puncher.....one punch at a time programmed....I was reading all your ****** predictions on the joshau - Martin fight and was pissing myself with laughter with ur opinions....physically him and joshua match up....size wise there's not much difference...exact same size as klicthcko is joshau who is 6'6 ..83inch reach but unlike klitchcko he's not past his sell by date and he will come after fury and nail him to the canvas....joshau all day long son


              No way Plunger will be here after Fury schools him.

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              • Vinnykin
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                #67
                Originally posted by Steve plunger
                I don't have to give a breakdown on how joshua beats him..but I will ...well fundamentally he is a better puncher and boxer....he sets himself on his feet and lands...he's accurate and he is a quick combination puncher....he simply walks through fury because he has all the physical tools to simply override what fury can do....moving his arms by his side and throwing 15 powder puff punches are not gonna be enough to stop joshua getting to him and landing on his chin...hell he did it to klitchcko but joshua is not 40 and klitchcko is alo a terrible combination puncher.....one punch at a time programmed....I was reading all your ****** predictions on the joshau - Martin fight and was pissing myself with laughter with ur opinions....physically him and joshua match up....size wise there's not much difference...exact same size as klicthcko is joshau who is 6'6 ..83inch reach but unlike klitchcko he's not past his sell by date and he will come after fury and nail him to the canvas....joshau all day long son
                I didn't make any predictions for the Joshua-Martin fight what are you talking about? I gave a view of how BOTH guys could win after digging up low quality YT videos of Martin, many shot from the crowd lol I even said Joshua could hit him early then it's game over.....Moron you are. I'm paraphrasing but I said Martin would have to avoid getting hit clean and take him deep to win. That's an OBVIOUS gameplan vs Joshua, make him miss, tire him out and see how he is in the later rounds. You won't see me making predictions when I have seen so little of each fighters game. Joshua having shown very little in his 30 odd rounds of pro boxing

                That is possibly the worst breakdown I have ever read. You can't even compare someone like Klitschko with Joshua. I still don't know if Joshua has an inside game, can fight going backwards or has stamina past the 7th round. I have to see him in with fighters I rate highly and know about before I can honestly say he is the real deal or not. His footwork and head movement in the Whyte fight was amateur at best, he would have been destroyed by ANY top 5 HW in that fight. I refuse to believe he has jumped up to World level after beating Cornish, Whyte and Martin, none of whom I rate in my top 20 in the world. That's just common sense

                I can tell he is good but I won't jump on the bandwagon just yet. It's way too early to tell. I'll say the same thing after his next fight. I want to see him tested by someone I currently rate above him or around him. I think he is well in the top 10 at no.7 and I know all these guys get Ko'd, That's why I'm not interested in the fight. It's not because I am Anti-AJ or don't like the guy. I don't care about mismatches in boxing. He's a champion fighting a bum as a defence, would say the same if it was Fury make no mistake

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                • The plunger man
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Vinnykin
                  I didn't make any predictions for the Joshua-Martin fight what are you talking about? I gave a view of how BOTH guys could win after digging up low quality YT videos of Martin, many shot from the crowd lol I even said Joshua could hit him early then it's game over.....Moron you are. I'm paraphrasing but I said Martin would have to avoid getting hit clean and take him deep to win. That's an OBVIOUS gameplan vs Joshua, make him miss, tire him out and see how he is in the later rounds. You won't see me making predictions when I have seen so little of each fighters game. Joshua having shown very little in his 30 odd rounds of pro boxing

                  That is possibly the worst breakdown I have ever read. You can't even compare someone like Klitschko with Joshua. I still don't know if Joshua has an inside game, can fight going backwards or has stamina past the 7th round. I have to see him in with fighters I rate highly and know about before I can honestly say he is the real deal or not. His footwork and head movement in the Whyte fight was amateur at best, he would have been destroyed by ANY top 5 HW in that fight. I refuse to believe he has jumped up to World level after beating Cornish, Whyte and Martin, none of whom I rate in my top 20 in the world. That's just common sense

                  I can tell he is good but I won't jump on the bandwagon just yet. It's way too early to tell. I'll say the same thing after his next fight. I want to see him tested by someone I currently rate above him or around him. I think he is well in the top 10 at no.7 and I know all these guys get Ko'd, That's why I'm not interested in the fight. It's not because I am Anti-AJ or don't like the guy. I don't care about mismatches in boxing. He's a champion fighting a bum as a defence, would say the same if it was Fury make no mistake
                  Yes you did u picked Martin by KO in round 9......I'll dig it out for you as proof

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                  • NakiFan
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                    #69
                    I hope it's stiverne

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                    • The plunger man
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Vinnykin
                      I didn't make any predictions for the Joshua-Martin fight what are you talking about? I gave a view of how BOTH guys could win after digging up low quality YT videos of Martin, many shot from the crowd lol I even said Joshua could hit him early then it's game over.....Moron you are. I'm paraphrasing but I said Martin would have to avoid getting hit clean and take him deep to win. That's an OBVIOUS gameplan vs Joshua, make him miss, tire him out and see how he is in the later rounds. You won't see me making predictions when I have seen so little of each fighters game. Joshua having shown very little in his 30 odd rounds of pro boxing

                      That is possibly the worst breakdown I have ever read. You can't even compare someone like Klitschko with Joshua. I still don't know if Joshua has an inside game, can fight going backwards or has stamina past the 7th round. I have to see him in with fighters I rate highly and know about before I can honestly say he is the real deal or not. His footwork and head movement in the Whyte fight was amateur at best, he would have been destroyed by ANY top 5 HW in that fight. I refuse to believe he has jumped up to World level after beating Cornish, Whyte and Martin, none of whom I rate in my top 20 in the world. That's just common sense

                      I can tell he is good but I won't jump on the bandwagon just yet. It's way too early to tell. I'll say the same thing after his next fight. I want to see him tested by someone I currently rate above him or around him. I think he is well in the top 10 at no.7 and I know all these guys get Ko'd, That's why I'm not interested in the fight. It's not because I am Anti-AJ or don't like the guy. I don't care about mismatches in boxing. He's a champion fighting a bum as a defence, would say the same if it was Fury make no mistake
                      This is your post for the matin joshua fight ....I trolled it

                      I've watched all the fights I could dig up on Martin, I've also watched Joshua's last 5 fights and a couple others. I can't really make a call on this but I can make a case for both fighters winning.

                      Martin has went the distance a few times and has a good % of ko's in the later rounds, I haven't seen him lose many rounds in any of the fights I've seen and he looks sharp in the later rounds, doesn't appear to tire at any point in his fights. He seems to work on reflexes and counter punch, he just reads guys well and tries to throw sharp and accurate punches with both hands. I think Martin is a bigger, slower David Haye in style at distance but that is where the similarity ends.

                      Joshua has rushed out and pummelled guys and hasn't really sharpened any boxing skills or learned to pace himself like Martin has. His sheer size and power have been enough to get the job done very much like Wilder in most of his fights. After landing a stiff jab he just closes in and opens up, most of the guys haven't been good enough or big enough to cope with this and have been finished early. Joshua has very plodding footwork and no head or lateral movement, he doesn't box on his toes like Martin or Klitschko either or hasn't shown it as of yet, his reflexes and timing are not as good as a result, he doesn't look as sharp.

                      I think if Martin can use his size and lateral movement as a defence, and time Joshua whenever he is in distance, he can outbox him in the early rounds and take Joshua into deep water. I believe him when he said he gets stronger as I've seen him still looking good or better in the later rounds. If it goes past 6 I think Martin will Ko him in the later rounds. If Joshua catches him and backs Martin up into the corner or the ropes then we know what will happen, Joshua will let go and could finish him, Martin needs to survive these exchanges and counter to stop Joshua trying this, preferably not get caught or hurt to begin with. Joshua's best chance is to finish him early because he won't beat Martin with the jab or relying on boxing from distance.

                      I heard David Haye saying that he was told from trusted sources that Martin doesn't lose rounds in sparring, I don't think Joshua will outbox him and win rounds from what I've seen.

                      I'm going to go for Martin by Ko around round 9.....But I'll hold my hands up if joshua does manage to Ko him early. It's his only chance and 1 punch could turn it around at any tiime

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