Golovkin is a 34 year old veteran... yet has the resume of a prospect...

[boliodogs]

Look at the modern greats of this era they all move up and multiple divisions not just one , I really think GGG is real but he has not proved it or fought anybody worth a dam , I thought the way he handled the Ward challenge was pure duck after calling out guys from 154 to 168 and then sht his pants when it came to Ward , a true ATG MW would have took it .

The only way a boxer should be accused of ducking another boxer is if they turned down a fair offer to fight in writing not some publicity seeking verbal call out in the media. What exactly was Ward's written offer to GGG to fight? How much money was GGG supposed to get? What weight was the fight supposed to be at and where was the fight supposed to happen? You don't know because Ward never made a written offer to fight GGG. When Ward made his media call out challenged he knew GGG already had a fight coming up with middleweight champion Lemieux and couldn't fight him then. Why was Ward calling out a guy in the weight class below his instead of trying to fight champions in his own weight class like DeGale and Jack as GGG did with Lemieux? Why did Ward offer to fight Mayweather at 160 but insist GGG come up to his weight of 168? Why did Ward make Dawson come down to his weight instead of going up to Dawson's weight? Who did Ward fight instead of GGG? He fought his favorite opponent, NOBODY. It seems the GGG haters have a double standard and Ward can do no wrong for doing exactly what they accuse GGG of doing.Only really good fighters like GGG have their own group of haters that start hate threads about him so the other GGG haters can join in and agree with them. If GGG wasn't a good fighter everybody would know it and the haters wouldn't need to try so hard to convince boxing scene he is not good. Most of the boxing world thinks GGG is a damn good fighter because it's the truth. The ****** fucs who insist he isn't any good can keep trying to discredit him but it won't work.He will continue to knock everybody out who dares to fight him and his popularity will continue to grow.

[Dr Rumack]

The hate for Golovkin is absurd at this point. In the Pac/Floyd feud you could understand it even if it was ******ed. This is just insane.

[Snoop Frog]

Lara isn't a middleweight, Ramirez isn't a middleweight and Canelo is a coward hiding down in his catchweight limits explain to me how fighting a guy who has picked on smaller guys his entire career is worthy of finally rating him as great and yes I'm talking about Canelo.

GGG's best wins, IMO, are his TKO of Martin Murray (never been stopped otherwise) and his TKO of David Lemieux. I like the idea of him collecting all the belts at MW, a la Hopkins and Monzon. That being said, it would be great to see him test himself, especially against a P4P guy like Canelo (The Ring, this site, and ESPN all have Canelo in their top 10 P4P).

[just the facts]

But but but 120-108 doe
But but but all Barrera shots weren't landing, I swear!

These Wardtards seeing what they want to see haha It will be so funny If Kovalev exposes Ward because he isn't even better than GGG.

Barrera sorta outted Ward to an extent you see how average he looked against him the fight was close.

Wow, that's some man crush you have going there. Ward looked average vs Barrera? The fight was close? I see where this bullshyte fits your agenda, but what fight were you watching?

[just the facts]

GGG hate threads expose the morons. If you watch boxing and don't believe Golovkin is a special talent, then you are an idiot, really.

Is it idiotic to believe before a fighter gets the "special talent" tag, he has to fight at least one quality opponent? Not in my book.

[bug0092]

lol you keep spinning a ward duck into a ggg duck. how is that possible? its a fact ward turned down the fight. ward priced himself out since he's nowhere near the draw ggg is. its a fact ward wanted to delay the fight for 15 months. why didn't ward accept the fight when he was the a-side? why dind't ward accept reasonable terms when he was the b-side? he managed to not make the fight when he was both which means he didn't want the fight. no other way to look at it unfortunately.

Ward's under pressure to make a big $$$ fight. RocN well eventually want a return on their investment. I'd suspect they're not getting much of a return paying him $2mil every time he fights a Paul Smith or Sullivan Barrera. He had plenty of opportunity to approach K2 after GGG beat Monroe and before the GGG/Lemieux fight was announced. Why did he wait? Anyone?

Ward's now fighting in his proper division. He's on record as saying he struggles to make 168 and his last fight at SMW was about 2.5 years ago. The offer to lock GGG into a long term commitment was simply a result of the need to pay out the aforementioned investment. And it would've been the easiest way to do it. Take half the money from a much smaller fighter who's been working his butt off building a brand while you've been sitting on the sidelines. Unfortunately for Ward, GGG wasn't willing to bend over and grab his ankles. K2 basically said, as they have since the initial HBO meeting, put in some work and then we'll talk.

Now, GGG has other plans and Ward can't hold out at SMW. So, he's "moved up" to LHW. Ward didn't duck GGG, but he didn't really work to make the fight happen either. That's on him, not Golovkin.

[just the facts]

The only way a boxer should be accused of ducking another boxer is if they turned down a fair offer to fight in writing not some publicity seeking verbal call out in the media. What exactly was Ward's written offer to GGG to fight? How much money was GGG supposed to get? What weight was the fight supposed to be at and where was the fight supposed to happen? You don't know because Ward never made a written offer to fight GGG. When Ward made his media call out challenged he knew GGG already had a fight coming up with middleweight champion Lemieux and couldn't fight him then. Why was Ward calling out a guy in the weight class below his instead of trying to fight champions in his own weight class like DeGale and Jack as GGG did with Lemieux? Why did Ward offer to fight Mayweather at 160 but insist GGG come up to his weight of 168? Why did Ward make Dawson come down to his weight instead of going up to Dawson's weight? Who did Ward fight instead of GGG? He fought his favorite opponent, NOBODY. It seems the GGG haters have a double standard and Ward can do no wrong for doing exactly what they accuse GGG of doing.Only really good fighters like GGG have their own group of haters that start hate threads about him so the other GGG haters can join in and agree with them. If GGG wasn't a good fighter everybody would know it and the haters wouldn't need to try so hard to convince boxing scene he is not good. Most of the boxing world thinks GGG is a damn good fighter because it's the truth. The ****** fucs who insist he isn't any good can keep trying to discredit him but it won't work.He will continue to knock everybody out who dares to fight him and his popularity will continue to grow.

I'll explain this to you slowly again. People who put together professional fights are called promoters. Promoters don't care about anything in life except $$$. They don't care about quality fights, they don't care about public opinion, they don't even care about the health of fighters, just money. Team g string assured everyone involved that a Ward fight could ONLY happen at 164lbs. Ward cannot physically make 164lbs. Therefore no promoter worth a pinch of shyte is gonna waste the time, effort or most importantly money to work up an offer for a fight that can't be made.

[JJRod]

I mean when you look at it like that, it's pretty terrible really.

This guy is getting to the age where most greats are starting to wind down their careers.

I just don't see this dude as anything special, he reminds me of Ottke, or Arthur Abraham (prior to the super 6)

The guys he beats are top ten in the division.
Yiu can only fight what's in front of you.

[Irony123]

First and foremost, g strings resume is not "pretty good". It's garbage.

To make your case you use Wilder as a measuring stick? Major league difference, no one has Wilder in their top ten p4p. Wilders resume lately is garbage too, but with a win over Stiverne, his resume is on par with g string, if he beats Povetkin, his resume is better.

******ed logic... P4P is resume and ability, clearly people can see GGGs ability as being P4P. thats the entire purpose of P4P because when he fights world class middleweights (not talking about ATG here... just the best in his division) he makes them look like nobodies.

your forum name and what you type is the biggest oxymoron... just for once i would like to look at your response and say... wow he actually used a fact.

[therealpugilist]

It's funny when people make out Arthurs 160 run as anything special

havent really seen anyone suggest it was special..GGG's run is no better than Abrahams at 160 and at least he did move up when he couldnt get the fights he wanted.....but we do have idiots talking about GGG being p4p top 25 of the last 25 years, top 3 today, on the way to breaking Gomez' ko record in str8 title fights(how can it even be considered when he never won the title in the ring and defenses were when Sturm had the real title)...who the **** did he beat to get there

he literally has done the least of any fighter I have ever seen to recieve so much hype and praise