These people are hustlers and extortionists

[OnePunch]

I did read the article. Everything Loeffler says is true. Degale is not as big a draw as Froch would've been. Not PPV. He basically says "it depends"...which means it's a possibility. You're reading too much into it and comparing two quotes which are nearly 9 months apart. The Degale comment was before Lemieux with Cotto/Canelo on deck. I don't get what the problem is with any of his comments when put in context in a proper timeline.

I don't disagree with the fact GGG needs better comp now. But GGG has to get his mando out of the way, so Wade it is. Nobody likes the fight but it's necessary. Why's it necessary?...because none of the other champs want to fight him at the moment.

Here's a much more recent article quoting Loeffler about GGG/DEgale. Wonder why you couldn't dig this one up. Took me 2 minutes to find it...

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-promoter-if-ggg-beats-degale-hell-return-160--100822

This whole thread and your whole argument are henceforth rendered null and void. Click the link. That's what they're for.

Im sure he saw it. But it didnt fit his narrative for YET ANOTHER ggg hate thread.........

[SilverMiles]

James DeGale has beaten Gonzales, Bute and Andre Dirrel. I won't even count Periban

Ramirez has beaten Arthur Abraham.

Why are people saying Ramirez is the more dangerous fighter? What am I missing here?

Ramirez has the size and reach to give GGG a better fight. He has better stamina, better ring IQ, and power.

Degale is a 4 round fighter with questionable boxing IQ. He has literally struggled with domestic fighters and scrapped by mere rounds. If and when GGG beats him haters like yourself will discredit it.

Degale would be a easier fight. Ramirez also has that's win over Edwards, you know he guy that flatten Baduo Jack and Maxim Vlasov, a once beaten prospect. I'm telling you now if you want to see GGG beaten Regale doesn't have a shot, he'll be toppled like Lemule.

[Chollo Vista]

Ramirez has the size and reach to give GGG a better fight. He has better stamina, better ring IQ, and power.

Degale is a 4 round fighter with questionable boxing IQ. He has literally struggled with domestic fighters and scrapped by mere rounds. If and when GGG beats him haters like yourself will discredit it.

Degale would be a easier fight. Ramirez also has that's win over Edwards, you know he guy that flatten Baduo Jack and Maxim Vlasov, a once beaten prospect. I'm telling you now if you want to see GGG beaten Regale doesn't have a shot, he'll be toppled like Lemule.

Ramirez has more power than DeGale? Better ring IQ?

DeGale is a 4 round fighter?

DeGale would be an easier fighter?

Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you man.

You said John Mugabi was a bum when he fought Hagler, but now all of a sudden Gurdo Ramirez is a killer? All this because Tom Loeffler decided to start bringing his name up as a potential opponent; now you take it and run with it.

Didn't you say GGG is the #6th greatest MW of all time?

[Chollo Vista]

Ramirez has the size and reach to give GGG a better fight. He has better stamina, better ring IQ, and power.

Degale is a 4 round fighter with questionable boxing IQ. He has literally struggled with domestic fighters and scrapped by mere rounds. If and when GGG beats him haters like yourself will discredit it.

Degale would be a easier fight. Ramirez also has that's win over Edwards, you know he guy that flatten Baduo Jack and Maxim Vlasov, a once beaten prospect. I'm telling you now if you want to see GGG beaten Regale doesn't have a shot, he'll be toppled like Lemule.

I present to you Robert Kardashian of the GGG defense team

[about.thousands]

Don't forget to buy your swag, sheep

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— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) April 17, 2016

[SilverMiles]

Ramirez has more power than DeGale? Better ring IQ?

DeGale is a 4 round fighter?

DeGale would be an easier fighter?

Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you man.

You said John Mugabi was a bum when he fought Hagler, but now all of a sudden Gurdo Ramirez is a killer? All this because Tom Loeffler decided to start bringing his name up as a potential opponent; now you take it and run with it.

Didn't you say GGG is the #6th greatest MW of all time?

Quote me on saying Mugabi is a bum, I just say you overrated a guy who only claim to fame is getting knocked out by Hagler.

Ramirez is ranked #2 at SMW and will be a stylistic nightmare for GGG. I see nothing that Degale does that will case him problems. He get stopped by the 8th and than I'm being generous. Have you followed this guys career his not great by any means. He a knockout waiting to happen. Ramirez beats the **** out of Degalr if they fight.

I've never been high on Degale, he simply isn't a threat to GGG. I have no problem with the fight but about.thousands and you are idiots if you bash GGG for fighting a 6'3 undefeated world champion, ranked #2 in the division Mexican coming off a win against the # 1 ranked guy on the division. Your hating has reached ridiculous levels.

[nacho daddy]

the *** are you on about?

you are so ******** ****** buckwheat read your own post that I responded to

[Chollo Vista]

Quote me on saying Mugabi is a bum, I just say you overrated a guy who only claim to fame is getting knocked out by Hagler.

Why do fans keep bringing up Mugabi, he wasn't that good he literally beat no one before or after Hagler. He was a hype job.

Sounds like you're calling him a bum to me in so many words. But Gurdo Ramirez is a killer.

Ramirez is ranked #2 at SMW and will be a stylistic nightmare for GGG. I see nothing that Degale does that will case him problems. He get stopped by the 8th and than I'm being generous. Have you followed this guys career his not great by any means. He a knockout waiting to happen. Ramirez beats the **** out of Degalr if they fight.

So you're saying Ramirez has a better resume than DeGale?

I've never been high on Degale, he simply isn't a threat to GGG. I have no problem with the fight but about.thousands and you are idiots if you bash GGG for fighting a 6'3 undefeated world champion, ranked #2 in the division Mexican coming off a win against the # 1 ranked guy on the division. Your hating has reached ridiculous levels.

Ramirez just beat Arthur Abraham who's not necessarily Zeus of the SMW division and is at the tail end of his career while coming off questionable decision wins over Murray, Stiegliz and Paul Smith. This isn't ground breaking stuff here.

DeGale's win over Dirrel easily trumps anything Ramirez has accomplished in the division.

Just stop.

BTW a 90 second destruction over Peter Quillin > 12 round win over Arthur Abraham at the tail end of his career.

Daniel Jacobs is the direction they should be looking in.

[SilverMiles]

Sounds like you're calling him a bum to me in so many words. But Gurdo Ramirez is a killer.



So you're saying Ramirez has a better resume than DeGale?



Ramirez just beat Arthur Abraham who's not necessarily Zeus of the SMW division and is at the tail end of his career while coming off questionable decision wins over Murray, Stiegliz and Paul Smith. This isn't ground breaking stuff here.

DeGale's win over Dirrel easily trumps anything Ramirez has accomplished in the division.

Just stop.

BTW a 90 second destruction over Peter Quillin > 12 round win over Arthur Abraham at the tail end of his career.

Daniel Jacobs is the direction they should be looking in.

But you're trying to say Gilberto isn't a dangerous fight when he clearly is. GGG is chasing a more dangerous fighter than Jacobs, who lets be honest isn't even on GGG's level and presents hardly any danger.

Your like this super Jacobs fan. Don't get me wrong I like the fight but I also like this Ramirez fight. You really need to get off Jacobs nuts.

[deanrw]

Everyone is a liar in this game. When you find someone who speaks the truth, let me know.

Everyone keeps quoting GGGs team over this and that. The real truth is that GGGs team like all the others will put out a spin, then ride the wave where they can make the most money.

Just like every other fighter that has proper management. If you know someone who is different, again please let me know.