Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence Jr - who wins?

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  • RetroSpeed05
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    #21
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    Crawford, easily. Terrance has very effective reach and incredible movement, exactly the type of thing that will be Spence's downfall. Errol is brutal when a guy is in his range and stationary. You can see him waiting and loading. I don't see him having the footwork that make a "great" fighter like Crawford.
    What if Errol takes his punches? Errol is a big WW, wasn't he a JMW before going down?

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      #22
      Originally posted by El-blanco
      Crawford is too skilled. Errol had a sitting duck in front of him tonight that played to his strengths. People get carried away about people without analyzing why they looked that way.
      He did what Pac, Khan, and Provo couldn't do. And Algieri is a better fighter now than he was against Pac and Provo. The fight with Khan was a draw IMO.

      Spence is the real deal. He did what special fighters do, end fights. Going the distance with Algieri wouldn't be anything special. Khan & Pac already did it. If you're a special fighter do something that other top fighters couldn't do, stop Algieri. You can't downplay what Spence did tonight.

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        #23
        Originally posted by El-blanco
        Crawford is too skilled. Errol had a sitting duck in front of him tonight that played to his strengths. People get carried away about people without analyzing why they looked that way.
        Are you sure you didn't see Sugar Floyd Ali in there tonight? Stop being a hater. Spence is already the greatest fighter ever. He just beat Chris Algieri, and the tiger was out this time.

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          #24
          Originally posted by about.thousands
          He did what Pac, Khan, and Provo couldn't do. And Algieri is a better fighter now than he was against Pac and Provo. The fight with Khan was a draw IMO.

          Spence is the real deal. He did what special fighters do, end fights. Going the distance with Algieri wouldn't be anything special. Khan & Pac already did it. If you're a special fighter do something that other top fighters couldn't do, stop Algieri. You can't downplay what Spence did tonight.
          Lol, you can't up play it either. Algeiri is a good test. That doesnt make Spence special. Doing it over a number of years does.

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            #25
            Originally posted by mathed
            Close fight but I think Crawford finds a way to hurt him. I don't need to go any further than that actually because once Crawford has you hurt, it's a wrap.

            NOTE: I'm talking about if these guys were the same weight, not JWW vs. WW. Only talking about style against style, skill against comparable skill
            Crawford has the "recipe" of greatness, which is why I give him a little more credit than he's earned. Footwork, speed+power, and "the instinct". He knows exactly where his opponents are mentally and knows how and when to seal the deal.

            I'm seeing great fundamentals and solid power in Spence, but I'm not sold on footwork, speed, or fight IQ. He looked great tonight but his opponent couldn't have make it easier for him, playing right into his game.

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              #26
              Originally posted by about.thousands
              He did what Pac, Khan, and Provo couldn't do. And Algieri is a better fighter now than he was against Pac and Provo. The fight with Khan was a draw IMO.

              Spence is the real deal. He did what special fighters do, end fights. Going the distance with Algieri wouldn't be anything special. Khan & Pac already did it. If you're a special fighter do something that other top fighters couldn't do, stop Algieri. You can't downplay what Spence did tonight.
              he actually isn't. Do you not realize this strategy would have resulted in a 2 round ko versus provodnikov?

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                #27
                Originally posted by RetroSpeed05
                What if Errol takes his punches? Errol is a big WW, wasn't he a JMW before going down?
                Then we have a real fight! Seeing Crawford's power and ability to get in and out cleanly I'm not giving much attention to the idea that Spence will eat everything Crawford gives and dish back before Terrance is out of range. But, it's always a possibility.
                When Algeri moved, Spence was swinging and missing. Chris inexplicably chose to sit on his punches and trade though, which allowed Errol to do his magic.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by El-blanco
                  he actually isn't. Do you not realize this strategy would have resulted in a 2 round ko versus provodnikov?
                  What was his strategy tonight?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by El-blanco
                    he actually isn't. Do you not realize this strategy would have resulted in a 2 round ko versus provodnikov?
                    I've got to agree. What got him through Provod was discipline and adapting. He lost Pac and Kahn due to lack of skill. He lost tonight from a horrid gameplan. If he fought tonight like he did in the middle and late rounds vs Provod (conservative with lots of movement and getting out of range) he would have at least given a competitive fight. He was a terrible tonight though and let his opponent dictate the fight, the opposite of what he did vs Provod.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                      He's less effective with his reach than Crawford though, because of Crawford's exceptional footwork.
                      Hopefully we'll get to see this someday and find out.

                      Edit; saw your silly Spence thread, now I understand why you're not seeing this...
                      manny had more dynamic footwork than Floyd.

                      But when they fought Floyd limited manny's footwork by using his greater reach and jabbing.

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