Do Fights REALLY Need To SIMMER?

[Razcal26]

Yes, they do.

- Puts more pressure on the boxers
- Makes the fights that much more important,
- It SHOULD make the belt(s) they are fighting for much more prestigious
- Creates lanes for the entire division.

Championship fights are the only ones that need to marinate.

[-PBP-]

Of course they do. If Ward/Kovalev happened tomorrow it would sell like 10k PPVs.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Yes, they do.

- Puts more pressure on the boxers
- Makes the fights that much more important,
- It SHOULD make the belt(s) they are fighting for much more prestigious
- Creates lanes for the entire division.

Championship fights are the only ones that need to marinate.

And in the mean time, we get one mismatch piece of garbage after another?

We know the belt prestige thing doesn't hold as you point out by saying "SHOULD"

It may make the fights more important, but rarely does it give us the fights we want.

If Leonard-Hagler, Mayweather-Pacquiao and Chavez-Randall III and Chavez-Taylor II and Leonard-Duran III and many others had happened sooner, we would have gotten better fights.

[Tom Cruise]

No.

Strike while the iron is hot, then, if the iron gets hot again in the future, strike again.

Is there less interest in Degale vs Groves now because they already fought as prospects? How about prime Hopkins vs prime RJJ in the past?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Of course they do. If Ward/Kovalev happened tomorrow it would sell like 10k PPVs.

Is a year from now going to make much difference?

The only ones who are buying the fight are boxing fans. I'm pretty sure the casual audience died off for the most part back on May 2nd.

I'm fine with Ward getting used to the weight, but I think one more fight for him and let's get this thing rolling.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

No.

Strike while the iron is hot, then, if the iron gets hot again in the future, strike again.

Is there less interest in Degale vs Groves now because they already fought as prospects? How about prime Hopkins vs prime RJJ in the past?

Exactly. Aren't legends made off of tough fights? Now everyone expects a fighter to win a belt against a so-so champion to stay safe and then defend against safe opponents but look great n the process and build up the "0" which no one cares about, and then FINALLY face the guy we know would put them to the test. What a joke.

[-PBP-]

Is a year from now going to make much difference?

The only ones who are buying the fight are boxing fans. I'm pretty sure the casual audience died off for the most part back on May 2nd.

I'm fine with Ward getting used to the weight, but I think one more fight for him and let's get this thing rolling.

I think so. Ward has celebrity fans in attendance, both do 1 million viewers on HBO. Theyre both building their brand. Let it build up and be packaged properly so we can enjoy it with our friends and family instead of on the couch alone.

What other sports you know have championships every week? You build up to the title with a regular season and playoffs resulting in an epic ending that's broadcasted worldwide.

[Dr Rumack]

No.

Strike while the iron is hot, then, if the iron gets hot again in the future, strike again.

Is there less interest in Degale vs Groves now because they already fought as prospects? How about prime Hopkins vs prime RJJ in the past?

I agree. Simmering or marinating is often just an excuse for a fighter (or fighters) who just don't want to take a risk. Most of the time nothing is gained from it. Far more often one of them gets derailed or moves up and the fight dies.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

But isn't making the fight now, which should be great anyway, better? If the fight is that great, then you can make money off of the rematch.

It's been a long time, but I don't recall Morales-Barrera I simmering and that fight built up their legends overnight. Everyone wanted to see the rematch which made a lot of money on merit- not hype.

great for boxing fans yes but general public no.

and morales barrera wasnt a big hit with the causals.

see you guys are too ignorant sometime, you guys only look at it from the pov of a die hard boxing fan you dont see it from the point of money makers.

of course if it happens now they will try their best to sell it, but their wont be no real drama behind it. you think pac vs mayweather would have dont that much in 2010? HELL NO.

the casuals need a story line to buy into.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I think so. Ward has celebrity fans in attendance, both do 1 million viewers on HBO. Theyre both building their brand. Let it build up and be packaged properly so we can enjoy it with our friends and family instead of on the couch alone.

What other sports you know have championships every week? You build up to the title with a regular season and playoffs resulting in an epic ending that's broadcasted worldwide.

The other sports do have a championship every year which is true. However, we don't have to wait to see the best players versus the other best players. They play against each other often. And in boxing, a big fight can take years to get made, but in the meantime we get BS fights that are pointless to watch and have no high risk/high reward value for the boxers.

All of this simmering/marinating is costing us time. By the time a lot of these fights happen, the boxers will be ready to hang them up afterward with little accomplishment to show for it.