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  • #71
    Originally posted by Freedom2016 View Post
    Okay then worth a go, here is the first ten to the list here is ten guys inactive retired.
    Mike Tyson
    Evander Holyfield
    Buster Douglas
    Ray Mercer
    Joe Frazier
    Joe Louis
    Jack Johnson
    Sonny Liston
    Larry Holmes
    George Foreman

    Now some guys who aren't
    Anthony Joshua
    Deontay Wilder
    David Haye
    Kubrat Pulev (Fury ducked him)
    Luis Ortiz
    Joseph Parker
    Johann Duhaupas (this is a long shot but stylistically he is all wrong for Fury)

    And then we might be able to add Wladimir to this list but I'll wait for the rematch
    Tyson and Holyfield definitely have a great shot, as does Frazier. Douglas is a bit too sloppy and predictable to beat Fury (if Fury can read you, you're not winning period). Foreman could beat him with sheer force, although it's possible Fury avoids every one of Foreman's slow looping shots.

    Flat footed plodders like Mercer don't beat Fury unless he tried to get in a tear up with them. Not sure how Jack Johnson even enters the discussion.

    Of current fighters I'd give Wilder, Joshua and Ortiz the best chance to beat him. Pulev prior to the Wlad fight might have provided him with a challenge, but post-Wlad he seems to have lost his fire. Fury would easily dispatch him now. Likewise Haye, who despite his skills fights in quite an obvious manner, would be hard pressed to land a punch on him. Duhaupas gets Hammer'd. No way a guy that basic beats Fury.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Beyonce Bomber View Post
      Tyson and Holyfield definitely have a great shot, as does Frazier. Douglas is a bit too sloppy and predictable to beat Fury (if Fury can read you, you're not winning period). Foreman could beat him with sheer force, although it's possible Fury avoids every one of Foreman's slow looping shots.

      Flat footed plodders like Mercer don't beat Fury unless he tried to get in a tear up with them. Not sure how Jack Johnson even enters the discussion.

      Of current fighters I'd give Wilder, Joshua and Ortiz the best chance to beat him. Pulev prior to the Wlad fight might have provided him with a challenge, but post-Wlad he seems to have lost his fire. Fury would easily dispatch him now. Likewise Haye, who despite his skills fights in quite an obvious manner, would be hard pressed to land a punch on him. Duhaupas gets Hammer'd. No way a guy that basic beats Fury.
      Watch Ray Mercer Vs. Lennox Lewis, Ray Mercer would most certainly beat him If it was the younger version of himself he has good fundamentals often overlooked.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by mlac View Post
        These fury fan's are genuinely hilarious.

        It never ceases to amaze me how varied perspective can get, when the majority of us see a big fat feather fisted oaf who, granted moves very well for his size, beat's a 40 year old man in one of the worst performances by a champion in the history of the sport and suddenly that oaf becomes an 25 ATG and ' the best heavyweight of all time
        It was a lousy performance by Wlad because for the first time he was facing someone who was as tall and had enough smarts to make sure everything was legal and above board prior to the fight. You're just another jealous nerd with no life.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
          It is common knowledge Fury avoided Wlad in 2012, avoided WBC fight offs which would've led to Vitali, and IBF orders which would have brought him on course with Wlad two years earlier.

          Fury was shook at the thought of facing either Klitschko and never believed he'd beat either, thus the reason he signed the rematch clause. It's widely accepted by everyone bar Fury horn blowers.
          I completely disagree, Fury always knew he could beat Wlad, hence him calling him out for years. If there's one thing you can't accuse him of, it's lack of self belief.

          He signed the rematch because at the time, the rematch was the biggest money fight out there for him.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by fanofslug View Post
            It was a lousy performance by Wlad because for the first time he was facing someone who was as tall and had enough smarts to make sure everything was legal and above board prior to the fight. You're just another jealous nerd with no life.
            mlac is a casual who is unable to grasp the fact that Fury made Wlad look poor, not because he suddenly became an old overnight.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by denium View Post
              mlac is a casual who is unable to grasp the fact that Fury made Wlad look poor, not because he suddenly became an old overnight.
              Wait you don't mean the odds on favorite to win the first fight Wlad do you?

              Not the 4-1 odds on favorite or the -500 fav by some bettors right?

              Nah it can't be the same wlad that virtually the entire boxing public said would win can it?

              Isn't that the same wlad that fury quite easily beat up? Yea I think it is

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              • #77
                Originally posted by lparm View Post
                Wait you don't mean the odds on favorite to win the first fight Wlad do you?

                Not the 4-1 odds on favorite or the -500 fav by some bettors right?

                Nah it can't be the same wlad that virtually the entire boxing public said would win can it?

                Isn't that the same wlad that fury quite easily beat up? Yea I think it is
                mlac, Scott-Weiland and many others spent a large amount of time telling everyone that Klitschko-Fury was a mismatch, that Fury is a complete and utter bum and Wladimir would flatten him within a couple of rounds.

                Fury made a lot of so called boxing experts on here look very foolish, and thus they try and downplay one of the finest victories of the last decade.

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                • #78
                  Fury is number 1 ATG.

                  Ali lost to Berbick who then lost to Tyson. Tyson got smashed by Danny Williams. Williams got beat off Vitali. Vitali quit against Byrd. Byrd lost to Wlad and then Wlad lost to Fury who stands alone unbeaten.

                  So obviously Fury is better than Ali. The proof is there.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                    Fury is number 1 ATG.

                    Ali lost to Berbick who then lost to Tyson. Tyson got smashed by Danny Williams. Williams got beat off Vitali. Vitali quit against Byrd. Byrd lost to Wlad and then Wlad lost to Fury who stands alone unbeaten.

                    So obviously Fury is better than Ali. The proof is there.
                    The only name on that list that actually gives Fury a challenge is Ali and that's because of his movement, speed and iron chin.

                    All the others the furious one defeats and Byrd and Berbick shouldn't even be discussed next to Fury they are C level fighters when we are talking about A level.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by lparm View Post
                      The only name on that list that actually gives Fury a challenge is Ali and that's because of his movement, speed and iron chin.

                      All the others the furious one defeats and Byrd and Berbick shouldn't even be discussed next to Fury they are C level fighters when we are talking about A level.
                      Maybe so but post still proves Fury is the ATG.

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