Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua Opens as Slight Favorite To Beat Tyson Fury

[Fury4daWIN]

Fury has all the tools to beat AJ except for maybe power. To beat AJ I think you have to have the power to back him off you or else he's just going to walk through a guy before landing the right hand. That's why Whyte, no prize, was AJ's toughest opponent to date. He at least was willing to throw and keep AJ at bay a bit..

You don't need to be able to knock fighters out with every punch you throw to make them respect your power. Look at Ward or Mayweather. Speed, accuracy, timing, and volume of attack can all cause a fighter to think twice, as can a stiff jab that's always on point. Fury's great skill is that he can vary his power for different effect. He can pop guys with head snapping combinations and demoralise and confound them, or sit down on his shots and shake them up hard. Whatever he does, though, he makes his fighters fight his fight.

Joshua can walk through lesser guys because it's him doing the demoralising. There's no way he just walks through Fury though, not after a couple of rounds of eating nothing but jabs and counter shots. There's no fighter in the world who can just mentally ignore getting repeatedly hit in the head, well, except for Oliver McCall lol.

[kafkod]

Ali has earned his greatness....he consistenly fought and beat the greatest of his era silly man....and for you to even mention fury in the same sentence shows you are complete c@nt totally.....let fury beat an in prime joshua,haye,wilder,ortiz and a Parker to even be mentioned in the same breath as ali...you are showing how ****** you really are by even discussing this sort of comparison.....I will not judge fury on his performance againt klitchcko untill he has beaten him again to show its not a fluke....if you consider the way fury boxed in the first fight against klitchcko was a masterful dominant boxing display then you really are beyond hope......as I said many times before joshua will KO fury and when he does I am gonna hound you off this boxing forum for being so clueless about boxing styles and terms of greatness

I'm getting deja vu reading this.

There was a poster who went by "Ravens Fan" who used to go crazy at me for comparing Fury to Ali and saying he was going to be world champion one day.

If you substitute Wlad for Joshua in the final paragraph, this post of yours is vintage Ravens Fan!

He used to post a lot here, but disappeared after the Fury/Wlad fight.

[kafkod]

You don't need to be able to knock fighters out with every punch you throw to make them respect your power. Look at Ward or Mayweather. Speed, accuracy, timing, and volume of attack can all cause a fighter to think twice, as can a stiff jab that's always on point. Fury's great skill is that he can vary his power for different effect. He can pop guys with head snapping combinations and demoralise and confound them, or sit down on his shots and shake them up hard. Whatever he does, though, he makes his fighters fight his fight.

Joshua can walk through lesser guys because it's him doing the demoralising. There's no way he just walks through Fury though, not after a couple of rounds of eating nothing but jabs and counter shots. There's no fighter in the world who can just mentally ignore getting repeatedly hit in the head, well, except for Oliver McCall lol.

That's a good point. I'm also wondering what kind of effect Fury's psychological warfare and mind games would have on AJ's head.

Having seen Fury mentally and verbally toying with Wlad, Haye and Chisora, who are all mentally strong guys, like a cat with a mouse, I'm sure he could do the same thing with AJ.

[ianjamsie]

You don't need to be able to knock fighters out with every punch you throw to make them respect your power. Look at Ward or Mayweather. Speed, accuracy, timing, and volume of attack can all cause a fighter to think twice, as can a stiff jab that's always on point. Fury's great skill is that he can vary his power for different effect. He can pop guys with head snapping combinations and demoralise and confound them, or sit down on his shots and shake them up hard. Whatever he does, though, he makes his fighters fight his fight.

Joshua can walk through lesser guys because it's him doing the demoralising. There's no way he just walks through Fury though, not after a couple of rounds of eating nothing but jabs and counter shots. There's no fighter in the world who can just mentally ignore getting repeatedly hit in the head, well, except for Oliver McCall lol.

Joshua doesn't walk through fighters he slips punches. He was a world class amateur. Hit and not be hit.

The only time he hasn't done this is 2 rounds versus Dylian Whyte.

[LacedUp]

Fury has all the tools to beat AJ except for maybe power. To beat AJ I think you have to have the power to back him off you or else he's just going to walk through a guy before landing the right hand. That's why Whyte, no prize, was AJ's toughest opponent to date. He at least was willing to throw and keep AJ at bay a bit..

People were saying the same about Klitschko.

The thing about Fury that is different from anyone else in the division is his adaptability. I said before the fight that I'd be highly impressed if Klitschko beat Fury, because he's a multi dimensional fighter (Fury).

Klitschko was used to fighting one dimensional fighters.

Now, Fury has the longest reach in boxing 86". So when his movement is as erratic as it is and he makes you miss and keep pumping that flicking jab in your face, plus Fury is strong as hell man. Klitschko is strong too, but Fury was way stronger - Natural strength and size, no bodybuilding.

I see Fury being able to making a paint job on Joshua - If he can avoid the big punches of course.

[LacedUp]

Joshua doesn't walk through fighters he slips punches. He was a world class amateur. Hit and not be hit.

The only time he hasn't done this is 2 rounds versus Dylian Whyte.

The slip-counter was beautiful. But honestly, it was a lazy jab by Martin.

You won't see that kind of thing at the top top level.

[techliam]

Fury beat long reigning champion Klitschko, in Germany, decisively

Joshua beat unknown, and extremely lucky titleholder Martin(sub top-5), in London

But Joshua is the favourite. Theres no rational logic used here.

[ianjamsie]

The slip-counter was beautiful. But honestly, it was a lazy jab by Martin.

You won't see that kind of thing at the top top level.

He has done that to way better than Martin in the amateurs.

Joshua is a lot better than people give him credit for.

It'll just take a while for the rest of you to catch up.

[LacedUp]

He has done that to way better than Martin in the amateurs.

Joshua is a lot better than people give him credit for.

It'll just take a while for the rest of you to catch up.

lolz what? I've seen most of Joshua's amateur fights since he was ABA champion ffs. He didn't do that to ANY top class amateur - If not, please point it out?

Don't even give me that. I was sporting a Joshua avi before he was in the Olympics. I'm a fan, just telling it like it is.

[Eff Pandas]

That seems like the perfect line for action. The hype of a puncher is always bigger than a crafty boxer so even doe Fury is clearly the more proven & battle tested guy Joshua is the guy people are focused on rightly or wrongly.