Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Feels Mayweather Lost His Mind With 'Draw' of Trilogy

[hugh grant]

actually i don't blame floyd for calling it a draw and not giving manny credit. manny never gave floyd credit for the win in their fight so...touche

Floyd just says things for effect like Guerrero beat garcia or draw did floyd say?
Trouble is people now question his integrity, like we don't believe Floyd thinks he beat PAC.

[SUBZER0ED]

This is where we differ. I do not believe he fought injured. I believe he (nor his team) thought anyone would react the way they did to his claiming he was injured in the post fight presser. Usually boxing fans just shrug that stuff off and chat about it on social media. This time it was different.

I do not think anyone did (or possibly could have) predicted the absolute anger a lot of (non boxing) fans had toward Manny once he and his team said this nor could they imagine these fans would file suit. I know ESPN and others tried to blame Floyd (he bears some fault) but he wasn't the one facing the lawsuit(s). desperate times calls for desperate measures.

So now that he has had the surgery and is completely healed (your words) and we saw him throw only 10 more punches total in his last fight, I think a rematch does nothing but lines their pockets with more money for a similar outcome given that both are older, Manny didn't grow taller and Floyd's arms didn't get shorter.

Ok, so if Pac didn't fight injured, why ask for a toradol shot before the fight? Why tell the NSAC & the USADA about the injury right before the fight, if there was none? Pacquiao, Mayweather, Vegas, and everyone else who stood to get paid wanted this fight while it was hot. The last thing anyone wanted was another announcement that the fight was off, for any reason. That's why Pacquiao fought injured.

As I said, a rematch should cost considerably less than the first fight.

[torosboxing75]

Ok, so if Pac didn't fight injured, why ask for a toradol shot before the fight? Why tell the NSAC & the USADA about the injury right before the fight, if there was none? Pacquiao, Mayweather, Vegas, and everyone else who stood to get paid wanted this fight while it was hot. The last thing anyone wanted was another announcement that the fight was off, for any reason. That's why Pacquiao fought injured.

As I said, a rematch should cost considerably less than the first fight.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hardcore Floyd fans like to ignore the obvious.
I had Floyd winning the first fight but it was much closer then the scores implied and not the schooling some people here claimed. I still feel Floyd beats him again but just because of the bad shoulder, not letting Pac get his shot, the IV scandal and more important the terrible scoring for the fight. They need to square up again.

[The Big Dunn]

Ok, so if Pac didn't fight injured, why ask for a toradol shot before the fight? Why tell the NSAC & the USADA about the injury right before the fight, if there was none? Pacquiao, Mayweather, Vegas, and everyone else who stood to get paid wanted this fight while it was hot. The last thing anyone wanted was another announcement that the fight was off, for any reason. That's why Pacquiao fought injured.

As I said, a rematch should cost considerably less than the first fight.

Toradol is a pain numbing agent. If he wasn't hurt (as I believe) that means he was using Toradol so he could withstand punches. Its like Maria Sharapova claiming she had a heart issue to justify using meldonium-she wasn't using it for what it was designed for and heart issue was something her PR people knew melodium was used for.

He would tell them to try and justify getting the Toradol after being refused.

This sounds plausible but you have no way of proving this. You think Manny was pressured to fight hurt? WHy would Bob or Roach let that happen?

Major events get postponed all the time. They postponed Klit/Fury and that was the 2nd biggest fight in the world. You posting this in effect absolves Manny for lying and trying to cheat (imo) and makes Manny look admirable for fighting when he doesn't deserve credit for that performance. .

Lowering the cost of the rematch doesn't make a rematch right. I can understand that since Manny lost you want a rematch so he gets another chance to win. I just think its unfair to try and justify a rematch based on what happened in the ring. It may not have been a Canelo level whitewash, but it was clear, wide and thorough decision that left no question in the minds of the neutral people in attendance and watching on TV.

[WesternChamp]

one thing i notice is that the mayweathers is only vocal on pac's opponent's when its an african american. its like the mayweathers cant see an african american losing to manny. had pac fought guys like algieri in his last fight, do u think floyd would even care to voice his opinion on it?

[WesternChamp]

Toradol is a pain numbing agent. If he wasn't hurt (as I believe) that means he was using Toradol so he could withstand punches. Its like Maria Sharapova claiming she had a heart issue to justify using meldonium-she wasn't using it for what it was designed for and heart issue was something her PR people knew melodium was used for.

He would tell them to try and justify getting the Toradol after being refused.

This sounds plausible but you have no way of proving this. You think Manny was pressured to fight hurt? WHy would Bob or Roach let that happen?

Major events get postponed all the time. They postponed Klit/Fury and that was the 2nd biggest fight in the world. You posting this in effect absolves Manny for lying and trying to cheat (imo) and makes Manny look admirable for fighting when he doesn't deserve credit for that performance. .

Lowering the cost of the rematch doesn't make a rematch right. I can understand that since Manny lost you want a rematch so he gets another chance to win. I just think its unfair to try and justify a rematch based on what happened in the ring. It may not have been a Canelo level whitewash, but it was clear, wide and thorough decision that left no question in the minds of the neutral people in attendance and watching on TV.

what kinda **** u smoking on now? why in the hell would pac need to take whatever the f u just said to "withstand punches"?

dude, pac is a guy who reacts right away when he hear the crowd starts to boo during his fight and u think manny will come out and delay the fight even more so when everyone has been waiting and asking about it for years? pac is the type of fighters that will react and create actions as soon as he hear the boos.

[The Big Dunn]

what kinda **** u smoking on now? why in the hell would pac need to take whatever the f u just said to "withstand punches"?

dude, pac is a guy who reacts right away when he hear the crowd starts to boo during his fight and u think manny will come out and delay the fight even more so when everyone has been waiting and asking about it for years? pac is the type of fighters that will react and create actions as soon as he hear the boos.

I was answering the question from a previous post, not stating outright this is what he did. what does your last paragraph have to do with the discussion?

[SUBZER0ED]

Toradol is a pain numbing agent. If he wasn't hurt (as I believe) that means he was using Toradol so he could withstand punches. Its like Maria Sharapova claiming she had a heart issue to justify using meldonium-she wasn't using it for what it was designed for and heart issue was something her PR people knew melodium was used for.

He would tell them to try and justify getting the Toradol after being refused.

This sounds plausible but you have no way of proving this. You think Manny was pressured to fight hurt? WHy would Bob or Roach let that happen?

Major events get postponed all the time. They postponed Klit/Fury and that was the 2nd biggest fight in the world. You posting this in effect absolves Manny for lying and trying to cheat (imo) and makes Manny look admirable for fighting when he doesn't deserve credit for that performance. .

Lowering the cost of the rematch doesn't make a rematch right. I can understand that since Manny lost you want a rematch so he gets another chance to win. I just think its unfair to try and justify a rematch based on what happened in the ring. It may not have been a Canelo level whitewash, but it was clear, wide and thorough decision that left no question in the minds of the neutral people in attendance and watching on TV.

Come on Dunn, you're reaching. You actually believe that Manny Pacquiao, who is known to have a good chin, would ask for a pain numbing agent to protect him from the brittle hands of Floyd Mayweather? I understand that you are a die hard Floyd fan, but this claim is laughable.

My posting is not meant to absolve Manny of anything, but rather to try to illustrate why he did fight injured. There were at least two failed attempts to make this fight. Can you imagine the tremendous disappointment if this fight were postponed, not to mention the backlash Pac would have gotten? It doesn't make him a hero, & I'm sure you have seen my posts criticizing him for fighting injured.

I think a rematch is order because of Pacquiao's shoulder injury issue, Mayweather's IV issue, & the fact that the first fight was the most expensive dud in history.

[WesternChamp]

I was answering the question from a previous post, not stating outright this is what he did. what does your last paragraph have to do with the discussion?

my last sentence is for your question regarding "u think manny was pressured to fight hurt"..

my reply simply stated that even if pac wasnt pressured to fight hurt, pac's character is not gonna let him cancel the fight when everyone has been waiting for years. thats why i mention that manny is the type of fighters that will engage his opponent right away and create actions once the fans starts booing therefore pac will not cancel the fight because of an injury, and plus its not like manny's right shoulder got chopped off. pac said he injured his right shoulder during training and RE-injured it during the fight. when he went into the fight he felt fine, so why cancel the fight?

[SplitSecond]

Why would Pacquiao suddenly need Toradol to withstand punches, going in to face Floyd Mayweather? What an asinine comment.