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Originally posted by Furn View PostHe is miles off the size of a steroid using bodybuilder. Im 43 have a FFMI of 26 and body fat of 15% don't even workout or watch my diet. its always the ones with the poor genes that cry steroids.
You may be lean but I'm going to guess sight unseen you don't look like Anthony Joshua. Also...at different time Joshua looks more suspect than others. For instance...
Last edited by jaded; 04-20-2017, 01:29 AM.
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Originally posted by jaded View PostBodybuilding steroid use and goals are completely different from those of athletes and even so...there are a handful of people in the entire world who are like Ronnie Coleman even at the pro bodybuilding level. Just because Joshua does not look like Coleman does not mean he's clean.
You may be lean but I'm going to guess sight unseen you don't look like Anthony Joshua. Also...at different time Joshua looks more suspect than others. for instance...
I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt but look at "all natural" fighters like the UFC's Brock Lesnar and Alistar Overeem. Once they underwent a serious testing protocol, the truth came out. We can be kind and say innocent until proven guilty, but there's also a common sense angle here that's hard to ignore.
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AJ is a roid monster. His HGH gut will be remembered forever.
He stopped dealing drugs and started using PEDs instead.
Turned his life around doe.
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Originally posted by WTF Huck! View PostJoshua has an FFMI of 26.5 at an estimated 10% body fat, so no, it isn't.
re: HgH; the current WADA testing protocols would probably not catch an HgH user. They've done as well as they possibly could in examining the isotopes but really the half life is just too short to be detectable, and the "biomarkers" test (IGF-1 etc) is not robust and any good lawyer would have it dismissed without even going to court.
I suppose if you're into karma and all that hippy ****, an HgH user would be substantially increasing their risk of cancer, autoimmune diseases, organ damage and a whole range of nasty things over the long term.
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Originally posted by keith_head View PostThe scientific evidence for the arbitrary cutoff of 25 FFMI is weak and flawed. So I wouldn't say a FFMI of 26.5 is a strong marker of PED use, particularly in elite athletes. Not saying he's not a PED user, but it's not really a good argument that he is. It if was 30 or something? yeah, that'd be pretty damning.
re: HgH; the current WADA testing protocols would probably not catch an HgH user. They've done as well as they possibly could in examining the isotopes but really the half life is just too short to be detectable, and the "biomarkers" test (IGF-1 etc) is not robust and any good lawyer would have it dismissed without even going to court.
I suppose if you're into karma and all that hippy ****, an HgH user would be substantially increasing their risk of cancer, autoimmune diseases, organ damage and a whole range of nasty things over the long term.
Never taken anything but creatine, vitamins, and diuretics personally but i've pondered going deeper but the risks keep me honest.
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Originally posted by LoadedWraps View PostWhy would taking HGH give you organ damage and increase the risk of cancer? Unless it's more than just HGH? I'm an athlete and this is a serious question.
Never taken anything but creatine, vitamins, and diuretics personally but i've pondered going deeper but the risks keep me honest.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile...1691000000.pdf
FWIW this is probably also true of most PEDs - things like EPO, testosterone etc etc. Read Hanahan and Weinman's "Hallmarks of Cancer" and think about the mechanisms by which cancer operates.
http://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(11)00127-9
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