To the American boxing fans

[TheBoxingXpert]

I love these kind of threads. Especially the troll alts causing social experiments.

Ironically we have a troll alt bashing the USA constantly and favoring the British. How is that not nationalistic? I can see how NSB alts and groupies like threads like these.

Seriously, anyone using the word "troll" is obviously a white ****** who plays too much World of Warcraft. Get that *****ty nerdy language out of my thread, keep it inside your circle of geek friends. Spare us normal people from it.

[TheBoxingXpert]

Patriotism is useful

How else are the rich elite going to convince the ignorant masses of plebs to go die in wars?

you cant tell them ¨go ****ing die in a rotten trench or a desert so we can keep being ****** rich, we need more land to exploit, cheap oil, more resources etc¨

you must tell them that the country is in DANGER, and it NEEDS YOU!

You, my friend, is an intelligent person and you got no idea how much respect you deserve for having seen through the illusions of the elite.

[Butt stuff]

I love these kind of threads. Especially the troll alts causing social experiments.

Ironically we have a troll alt bashing the USA constantly and favoring the British. How is that not nationalistic? I can see how NSB alts and groupies like threads like these.

The British are pretty self deprecating when it comes to our country. It's hard to be proud when some old fart has declared herself ruler and is ****ting money sideways whilst the poor starve.

British patriotism/nationalism is a problem too. Because I have a Mediterranean look (dark skin/hair), I tend to stay the **** away from pubs with England flags hanging out the front.

[betmen]

America is the greatest countr on earth

we gave people McDonalds, cuckold ****, The Kardashians, and loads of other good stuff.

We are the richest and most powerful county, and you my friend are just jealous

pfftt.....that's from japan, american pron is way behind in term of exploration of new genre

[Lester Tutor]

Patriotism is useful

How else are the rich elite going to convince the ignorant masses of plebs to go die in wars?

you cant tell them ¨go ****ing die in a rotten trench or a desert so we can keep being ****** rich, we need more land to exploit, cheap oil, more resources etc¨

you must tell them that the country is in DANGER, and it NEEDS YOU!

Well there's general patriotism. If your land is attacked and in danger then its citizens would most likely agree to retaliate. However, hearing rural Christian Americans saying that the USA MUST aid Israel is not patriotic, especially when many Israelis despise American culture. As long as you're ***ish and you can prove it, born in the USA or not, yiu have right to cross over and become an Israeli citizen, for them that's a sense of nationalism or perhaps patriotism yet in all for those reasons for the American tax payer supporting these odd ball 40 year conflict resolutions why does the USA intervene? Because of Wall Streer are American ***s perhaps and the Israeli *********** conflict REQUIRES its ever lasting status quo.

What that has to do with American boxing fan enjoying its top athletes relates to these theories is beyond me.

Unfortunately many NSB insecure heads have taken the bait that American boxing fans are exclusive to American boxers. AFAIK, many boxing fans have a hard time understanding double standards. American boxing fans like all types of boxers. Its just funny when we root for the "unfortunate?" higher demographic any given season these American boxing fans are strictly Pro-Black and hate white boxers. Lol

[Sledgeweather17]

Basically this. If you're a **** person you're a **** person, stop living vicariously through someone else's achievements.

It can work both ways though. That national/patriotic pride can be the source of motivation that leads you to do great things for your family, community, and country. It can also inspire/motivate your kids, siblings, relatives to do it if you are incapable for whatever reason.

Patriotism is useful, and there is nothing wrong with loving your people. It is the foundation upon which unity of families, communities, and countries is founded.

[Butt stuff]

It can work both ways though. That national/patriotic pride can be the source of motivation that leads you to do great things for your family, community, and country. It can also inspire/motivate your kids, siblings, relatives to do it if you are incapable for whatever reason.

Patriotism is useful, and there is nothing wrong with loving your people. It is the foundation upon which unity of families, communities, and countries is founded.

I can definitely see that and it's benefits. This sort of thing is much more prevalent in American culture than in British.

But I believe that people should nurture their own goals and aspirations which is much more fulfilling than following others just because they are the same as you. And when people start marking out who is the same and who is not, that's when you start to have problems, as countries have had so many times in the past.

[TheMexHurricane]

First of, let's make one thing clear. America has produced some of the best boxers to ever put on the gloves. In fact, America has produced not only some, but MOST of them. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward, Suger Ray Leonard, Evander Holyfield, etc., the list could go on and on for hours.

The thing is, I never support a boxer for nationalistic reasons. When I support Andre Ward, I don't care about him being American and when I support Arthur Abraham, I don't care about him Armenian/German, etc. I think people should support fighters for their skills and not for their nationality.

The question I have for American boxing fans is: when you show nationalistic support for your fighters, is it then a matter of you just supporting the home fighters or is it a matter of a general nationalistic tendency carrying over? Are you, in general, as proud of your country as you are of its great fighters?

America's history is one of stealing land from Native Americans, kidnapping black ******, nuclear bombing Japan, supporting zionism and killing ******s. The war in Mexico is even a result of the American people's obsession with drugs. I respect American fighters, but I don't respect America as a country and I think no one should.

Whatevs, y'all English stooges speak American with an Australian accent so shut da hell up you fool! America's the greatest country ever!

[Lester Tutor]

I can definitely see that and it's benefits. This sort of thing is much more prevalent in American culture than in British.

But I believe that people should nurture their own goals and aspirations which is much more fulfilling than following others just because they are the same as you. And when people start marking out who is the same and who is not, that's when you start to have problems, as countries have had so many times in the past.

The Republic of Turkey is the best melting pot nation in the world, hands downs. Before the Republic, on which it stands, used to be the strong Ottoman Empire, and before that, a rich culture formerly known as Asia Minor. Today, Turks are mixed people of European, Middle Eastern, and Asian. The reason why the USA is so new in genetic phenotypes is because it doesn't have a rich mix of genetic culture. In other words, Turkey, because it's far older than most other great nations and benefitted from its power, embraced interracial since its foundation of emperors, also known as Sultans or Kings etc... The Western part of Turkey is luscious imo because of many mixed roots.

However, the Kurds vs Turks would be the equivalent of the Native American uprising where Native Americans and the vast mix of Americans just wouldn't agreet to live in harmony. Most Kurds believe in the ideology to still have its own country. All countries have racism unfortunately. Most Kurds, or Turkish citizens fled to Europe after WWII to help reconstruct along with labor, where Germany give instant citizenship. Those previous generation Kurds have Turkish citizenship IDs, so in general that vast Kurdish population that went to Europe after WWII and just considered Turks by default because of their nationality and citizenship, not their ''pure'' ethnicity. Most European Turk phenotypes are actually Kurds post WWII. To say Kurds look like Turks is just as innacurate to say all black Americans look exclusively like Drake (the Canadian) or Jason Kidd. They are not the ''ethnic'' Turks that never wished to move to Europe in the first place. All these terms are politically incorrect I guess.

[TheBoxingXpert]

Whatevs, y'all English stooges speak American with an Australian accent so shut da hell up you fool! America's the greatest country ever!

I'm not British. I don't like their feministic and ****sexual culture.

But I gotta admit that they have some good fighters. Fury, Haye, Froch, Frampton, Joshua, Saunders, Eubank, Naseem, Lewis, etc.