Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: If My Son Returns - No Big Middleweights!

[mrjoeblive]

your comprehension is low and your "facts" are wrong. a bad combination

floyd actually made a grand total of 25 million not 50. also you don't understand the concept of guarantees. he demanded a 20 million minimum guarantee when he was with arum. then when he left he suddenlly accepted a 10 million minimum guarantee. that shows he was not serious in the first negotiations if he was willing to accept half of what he had just demanded. you are being distracted by how much he actually made but he wasn't guarantteed 25 million or even 20, just the 10 he accepted when he fought hoya. he wanted at 20 million guarantee when he was with arum, something no one would give him, not even oscar/golden boy therefore making the demand unrealistic so why are you taking it seriously as if he wanted to fight marg because he made unrealistic demands?

I notice you pulled a pac and ducked my question about why pac refused to sign the contract back in 09. You talk a lot of trash but when you get called out on it you try to duck and change the subject. Which only means you cannot back up your nonsense.

[daggum]

"Flat turned him down like you can not believe," Arum said of Mayweather when he was offered a chance at the WBO title. "Any time we raised his name(margarito), Mayweather went crazy."


-Bob Arum in 2005 while still the promoter of floyd mayweather jr




so lets get this straight floyds own promoter who was still promoting him at the time said he ducked the fight, we have details about how he fought lesser fighters for less money instead of margarito, but he never ducked anyone? never? really now?

[mrjoeblive]

they gave pac everything he asked for? i dont remember pac asking for a 40 million dollar flat fee. that was pretty easy to debunk. next! see this is what im talking about. you are so biased you just completely ignore certain things to make your point. you conflate things over and over and over again in order to get to the explanation you want. its crap.

The 40 million dollar flat fee came in 2014. Floyd agreed to a 50/50 split in 09 and everything else pac asked for. The only thing that floyd asked for was Ost. In case you don't know, that's Olympic style drug testing. So again either you are flat out lying or ignorant of the facts. You are so bias you completely ignore fact and DOCUMENTED history.

[daggum]

I notice you pulled a pac and ducked my question about why pac refused to sign the contract back in 09. You talk a lot of trash but when you get called out on it you try to duck and change the subject. Which only means you cannot back up your nonsense.

in 2009? i said between 2010-2015. please pay more attention. you can make a case that pac didn't do everything to make the fight in 2009. is not caving into all of floyd's demands ducking? not so sure but that's fine. i can counter that with what happened after 2009 and how floyd still didn't take the fight even when he got what he had wanted in 2009 but you will probably ignore/not understand that.

my original argument that was floyd kept changing his demands after they were met so im not sure why you are clinging to 2009. we know floyd didn't fight pac in 2010, 11, 12, etc...we know his demands became increasingly insane and eventually he ended up with the 40 million guarantee in late 2011.

my contention is that someone who wont fight even when there demands are met is a ducker. your contention is that he would have fought in 2009 while ignoring everything that happened after 2009. my argument seems more solid and takes into accoutnt everything that happened, not just a tiny piece of time that you want to freeze in place and pretend is the only thing that happened.

even if i gave you that pac ducked in 2009, who ducked for the 5 years after that? who was being unreasonable with the 40 millino offer? you see you won't admit floyd did anything wrong. you are still talking about 2009. you love that 2009. you want to freeze it in place and pretend nothing else happened.

[daggum]

The 40 million dollar flat fee came in 2014. Floyd agreed to a 50/50 split in 09 and everything else pac asked for. The only thing that floyd asked for was Ost. In case you don't know, that's Olympic style drug testing. So again either you are flat out lying or ignorant of the facts. You are so bias you completely ignore fact and DOCUMENTED history.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao: Floyd Offered $40 Million Flat Fee, Wanted to Keep All Revenue and PPV
By Scott Christ  ScottchristBLH on Jan 26, 2012,

seriously do some research. you just make yourself look so uninformed. your arguments are based on falsehoods and bad info so why would i take them seriously? i shouldn't. i couldn't. i wont. not until you inform yourself better.

[bigjavi973]

wow at some comments....

but when lilg vs ward pops up they change their tone.

[elgu]

Nah, I hope the other guys you mentioned are better than Casa.....












Prime Pac either ducked Mayweather, or he ducked the random blood tests..... you decide which.

Either way, it's hard to blame Mayweather when Pac killed a super-fight by refusing to undertake random blood tests, especially with all of the other rubbish that Arum pulled with the media.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...yweather-fight


And Prime Cotto ducked Mayweather TWICE, once at 140 when Arum admitted that Cotto wasn't ready, and once at 147.....


You are reaching baaadly by mentioning two guys who Mayweather tried to fight, and then beat handily. I hope this gets better.....





GTFOH with cheato LMAO

Cheato lost to Williams, and Williams got out-boxed by Carlos fkn Quintana.

You are reaching baaadly





Kostya Tszyu was the 140 champ when Mayweather moved up. In 2005 he fought Gatti and Tszyu fought Hatton..... Mayweather fought Hatton a couple of years later. It was more about timing.





Maybe, but weak effort..... and you had to name a guy from the division above, who nobody else would fight either.

Give it a rest dude, you are pushing **** uphill with a pointed stick.

Williams was also avoided by everyone. According to GGG haters no one except Ward will fight him. Ward is 2 divisions above GGG and no one is in a rush to fight him either, why doesn't the same apply to Mayweather. Double standard.

Also according to GGG haters he is almost 34 and hasn't had a meaningful fight. At least with GGG he isn't a draw so he can't get fights done. Mayweather was and could select any fighter he wished and he ducked the guys i mentioned.

[meme_man]

wow at some comments....

but when lilg vs ward pops up they change their tone.

Lmao......

[mrjoeblive]

in 2009? i said between 2010-2015. please pay more attention. you can make a case that pac didn't do everything to make the fight in 2009. is not caving into all of floyd's demands ducking? not so sure but that's fine. i can counter that with what happened after 2009 and how floyd still didn't take the fight even when he got what he had wanted in 2009 but you will probably ignore/not understand that.

my original argument that was floyd kept changing his demands after they were met so im not sure why you are clinging to 2009. we know floyd didn't fight pac in 2010, 11, 12, etc...we know his demands became increasingly insane and eventually he ended up with the 40 million guarantee in late 2011.

my contention is that someone who wont fight even when there demands are met is a ducker. your contention is that he would have fought in 2009 while ignoring everything that happened after 2009. my argument seems more solid and takes into accoutnt everything that happened, not just a tiny piece of time that you want to freeze in place and pretend is the only thing that happened.

even if i gave you that pac ducked in 2009, who ducked for the 5 years after that? who was being unreasonable with the 40 millino offer? you see you won't admit floyd did anything wrong. you are still talking about 2009. you love that 2009. you want to freeze it in place and pretend nothing else happened.

I really want to see what demands floyd kept changing in 2010 or2011. Please post them.?

[mrjoeblive]

I really want to see what demands floyd kept changing in 2010 or2011. Please post them.?

I really cannot wait to see your explanation of your limited knowledge claim that floyd kept changing his demands. Tho 40 million flat offer was still more than pac ever earned for a fight and just a point of negotiations. All the while pac and arum, roach kepg saying they agreed to all floyds demands all the while saying pac was against giving blood because it made him weak. Or he was afraid of needles. And saying they agreed to demands except when questioned the tru to h is revealed that they are referring to unlimited urine testing. P, ease break it down for me. Without moving the goal post to make up for your inadequate boxing knowledge.