Comments Thread For: Fury: Joshua is a Useless, Big Raw Novice - He 'Bought' His Shot!

[The plunger man]

Were you actually at that sparring? I'm sure Fury embellished it somewhat because he felt like being kind to the kid. Remember the famous footage of Floyd Mayweather getting handled by Paul Spadafora in sparring? How do you think it would have played out had they fought in an actual fight?

As for Fury beating an old Wlad, well you know that that old Wlad sparred Joshua in a couple of camps previous to that. Try asking people at that camp how Joshua did? The answer is your hero was very very meek in those spars and barely through a punch. By all accounts Parker fared MUCH better at the following camp.

Why do you think Wlad was so keen to fight Joshua had he got past Fury??

Fact is if Tyson ever gets this palooka in the ring he will embarrass him.

Firstly son he ain't my hero..secondly Joshua by all accounts was not even a raw amatuer when he sparred fury and yet it's on record fury actually got beat up...and 3rdly klitchcko is actually on record saying that Joshua will be the future of the heavyweight division ..I'll dig it out for you ....fury is considered a laughing stock and almost every expert predicts that fury will lose to Joshua ....another newbie who is clueless

[The plunger man]

It'd be very hard to fluke a performance like that for twelve rounds, especially after telling everyone that's what you're going to do. The performance was poor only from an entertainment perspective, and even then I, and many others, were on the edge of our seats throughout. Tactically and strategically it was a masterclass in boxing, mental warfare at the highest level. It's a pity more people can't recognise that and appreciate it.

Joshua's entertaining on a base level. He goes out there, hits people with his fists and knocks them over. But there's no subtlety or finesse in his game. He does what he does because he's bigger and stronger than the rest. With Fury there's so much more going on. You just have to make the effort to look beneath the surface.

I can totally understand people who prefer watching Joshua to Fury but I won't accept when those same people call Fury unskilled or lacking in talent. He possesses both in spades, along with an incredible fighting brain. He lacks in top class physical abilities, which makes him beatable, but I can't think of a fighter who makes more of what he has than Fury right now. There was no way, literally no way, he could have beaten Wlad in a physical boxing contest (even at 40), so he took things to the mental stage and took Wlad's physical superiority away. I believe he'll do the same to any other fighter in the division, barring perhaps Ortiz (who's pretty smart as well).



One, I don't you personally. Two, you're asking me to bet a thousand quid, which is much more than I'd ever put on any sporting contest, under any circumstances. If that paints me as a coward in your eyes, I'll live with that. I'll be putting a decent chunk of change on that fight if it ever gets made, probably around a hundred, which is what I tend to bet on fights whose winner I'm sure of beforehand and whose odds are relatively decent (Wlad vs Haye, May vs Pac).

I've boxed all my life silly man....you don't need to tell me about skill or finesse with boxing lol......skill and finesse then were talking about a lomachencko or Whittaker not a Tyson fury ..do you hear how ridiculous you sound ...you will not beat a Anthony Joshua by throwing 10 punches a round and then doing an Irish jig...fury barely chisora the first fight ...he was dropped by a 200lb cruiserweight who he outweighed by 50lbs..he will walk right through fury and pulverise him.....he pulled off a fluke trick with klitchcko but we don't know if it was fury who was good or klitchcko who was off....all I know is it's almost 6 months ago now.....no rematch has been set and fury is walking around at 24 stone....when he is ready to finally fight then Joshua will just be entering into the story line and this conversation we will pick up when it's relevant and about to happen.....stick ur money on billy fury and I'll take Joshua ....if your brave then bet with me son

[M Bison]

He fought and won 3 title eliminators. Btw Red Cyclone it's pretty pathetic that you're using Dirk's name on here.

As for all this sparring rubbish. Fury was out of shape and went very easy on him. It was sparring, it means nothing.

It's irreverent anyway, Eddie Hearn isn't putting AJ anywhere near Tyson Fury.

Hahahahahaha!
Fury was getting a pasting off an amateur who had little pro experience just imagine what he will do to that big tubby pile of lard in a real fight.
Taking it easy?
What will he do when he doesn't take it easy will he step in the pocket and try to mix it up with the superior skilled boxer?


Red cyclone dunno what u mean mate I've seen the light I'm no longer a fan of a tax dodger.

[FrankieClutch]

If they both keep winning, they are in line for HUGE paydays in England to fight each other in the next year or so

[Fury4daWIN]

I've boxed all my life silly man....you don't need to tell me about skill or finesse with boxing lol......skill and finesse then were talking about a lomachencko or Whittaker not a Tyson fury ..do you hear how ridiculous you sound ...you will not beat a Anthony Joshua by throwing 10 punches a round and then doing an Irish jig...fury barely chisora the first fight ...he was dropped by a 200lb cruiserweight who he outweighed by 50lbs..he will walk right through fury and pulverise him.....he pulled off a fluke trick with klitchcko but we don't know if it was fury who was good or klitchcko who was off....all I know is it's almost 6 months ago now.....no rematch has been set and fury is walking around at 24 stone....when he is ready to finally fight then Joshua will just be entering into the story line and this conversation we will pick up when it's relevant and about to happen.....stick ur money on billy fury and I'll take Joshua ....if your brave then bet with me son

You call me ridiculous but try to claim that Tyson Fury fluked a victory over a decade-long dominant champion in outboxing him for twelve rounds. I don't give a toss how long you've boxed; you clearly show zero understanding of the game if you're coming out with nonsense like that. Fury is skilled. Full stop. Is he on a P4P level with Whitaker or Lomachenko? No. Whoever claimed he was? Certainly not me. But show me a heavyweight today who's better able to get inside other fighters' heads and make them fight his fight and I'll gladly concede the argument.

Fury won't approach Joshua the same way he approached Klitschko. He'll tailor his gameplan to work around Joshua's physicality and brute aggression, exploit his poor footwork and inability to be effective against a moving target. He'll get into his head and make him second guess himself. Whatever gameplan he uses, people will see a very different Joshua to the one they're used to seeing, and afterwards there'll be all sorts of clueless souls scratching their heads and wondering why Joshua didn't just walk forward and hit him, the way he did all his other opponents.

How do I know this? Because it's exactly what I predicted would happen in the aftermath of the Klitschko and Chisora fights. Fury makes fighters look bad. Sooner or later even masterminds like you can recognise that.

[nacho daddy]

A worthless platitude. Plenty of punchers learnt to be punchers by altering their training and changing their style, Tommy Hearns being the obvious one.

Unless you have the bones of a small bird or the musculature of an anorexic girl you can be trained to punch hard. Might not be in your best interests, given your style and other factors, but it can be done.

Bradley's lack of punching power is entirely down to his technique.

that is bullsheet. punchers are born not made

[Fury4daWIN]

that is bullsheet. punchers are born not made

Punchers are born and made. Anyone can improve their punching power through training and improvement of technique. Conversely, naturally heavy handed guys can lose power through crappy technique. Combine the two elements of heavy handedness and great technique and you have a truly fearsome puncher.

[Grange_27]

Fury is a clown who got lucky against an suddenly aged Wlad who looked like he was on smack. It's a further embarrassment to the HW division that this tubby brainless pr1ck is somehow the lineal champ. Joshua brings excitement to the division and Fury knows the only way he's selling out a decent sized arena in the UK is if he fights Joshua or Haye....and he's not fighting Haye. So instead he'll get sparked by AJ ...happy days

[PensionKiller]

Firstly son he ain't my hero..secondly Joshua by all accounts was not even a raw amatuer when he sparred fury and yet it's on record fury actually got beat up...and 3rdly klitchcko is actually on record saying that Joshua will be the future of the heavyweight division ..I'll dig it out for you ....fury is considered a laughing stock and almost every expert predicts that fury will lose to Joshua ....another newbie who is clueless

Joshua will lose to Tyson. Simply put Joshua is too static with his upper body/head, chases too much and has a lack of defence.

Sparring is one thing, a 12 round is another.

Post Whyte/Klit, I'd say most will say Fury beats Joshua.

[The plunger man]

You call me ridiculous but try to claim that Tyson Fury fluked a victory over a decade-long dominant champion in outboxing him for twelve rounds. I don't give a toss how long you've boxed; you clearly show zero understanding of the game if you're coming out with nonsense like that. Fury is skilled. Full stop. Is he on a P4P level with Whitaker or Lomachenko? No. Whoever claimed he was? Certainly not me. But show me a heavyweight today who's better able to get inside other fighters' heads and make them fight his fight and I'll gladly concede the argument.

Fury won't approach Joshua the same way he approached Klitschko. He'll tailor his gameplan to work around Joshua's physicality and brute aggression, exploit his poor footwork and inability to be effective against a moving target. He'll get into his head and make him second guess himself. Whatever gameplan he uses, people will see a very different Joshua to the one they're used to seeing, and afterwards there'll be all sorts of clueless souls scratching their heads and wondering why Joshua didn't just walk forward and hit him, the way he did all his other opponents.

How do I know this? Because it's exactly what I predicted would happen in the aftermath of the Klitschko and Chisora fights. Fury makes fighters look bad. Sooner or later even masterminds like you can recognise that.

As I said before he has done that one time with a champion is over 40 years of age who was so use to fighting 6ft 2 and shorter fighters he could literally lean on them and keep his arm extended so he is out of harms way. He got to use to his own style and when he came up against a fighter who could move a little and could actually out reach him he was lost...that's exactly what happened ....as I said before and I will say it again....untill fury beats a wilder , or an ortiz or even joshua the klitchcko fight is a fluke in my eyes.......are you really that dumb to consider Wladimir klitchcko was actually anywhere near his prime.......he's 40 for Christ sake and no heavyweight boxer who has been fighting as long as he has ever made it to 40 without being way past his prime...and .don't say foreman because he was inactive for 10 years.....ur gonna look like an idiot when fury either fights wilder or joshua because I'll tell you both of those guys with knock fury into tomorrow....fury thinks he got tagged and dropped by a little 200lb cruiserweight in Cunningham he will be knocked out uncontious by wilder or joshua.......wilder is all wrong for him...he is amost as tall....he throws long punches and his long right hand is quick & explosive plus he is not affraid to let his punches go......I'll even have wilder over fury ....you talk a good fight but you won't back it up Beyoncé fury ....both wilder and joshua knocks out fury