Comments Thread For: Fury: Joshua is a Useless, Big Raw Novice - He 'Bought' His Shot!

[Fury4daWIN]

How the hell can you tell he has improved more than Joshua in the last 2 years….

Very easily. He went from being knocked down by Pajcik and rocked by Firtha to outpointing the most dominant heavyweight fighter on the planet. If that ain't improvement I don't know what is. Certainly not Joshua progressing from beating up bums to beating up untested prospects.

Joshua has not been taken past 7 rounds in his whole career...and given the fact that even Whyte was a known ****er who was also unbeaten….

That's actually a bad thing. We have no idea how his stamina will hold up in a twelve round fight or how he'll react the first time he fights someone who doesn't crumble to his power.

Whyte was a known ****er at British domestic level. His undefeated record was meaningless because he'd never fought anyone worth a damn.

now I will say this to to you as well.....put your money where your mouth is...and judging by silly deontay wilder who has had over 30 fights still lacks boxing savvy and technique and has faced bum after bum since becoming world champion....your see son on April the 9th just how strong and ruthless Joshua will be and this is just the start...now knock Joshua if has been poor but up until now he has pretty much destroyed every opponent and that includes any boxers who were b rated.....he didn't even raise a sweat in all but one of his fights...fury played a game with klitchcko and it payed off...he won't do it with Joshua will walk right through him and land on his chin.....I guarantee you that

I'd be happy to put money on a Fury vs Joshua fight provided both fighters haven't lost or degraded badly by that point (the way Fury lives, I wouldn't rule it out). I'll be doing it through the bookies, however, and not with some random bloke off an internet forum.

[Sledgeweather17]

Fury claims Joshua is not ready to take on a "champion" in Martin because he is too inexperienced with only 15 pro fights and has no jab or skills. I'm just wondering what makes Martin so legit? He was basically given the IBF title which was stripped from Fury after he won by default when Glazkov knocked himself out. Before that fight, nobody even knew who Martin was. He is still an unknown quantity and completely untested.
Glazkov didn't deserve a title shot and neither did Martin. Glazkov was gifted decisions to go on to take what looked like a dive against Martin and Martin beat a bunch of nobodies to win a world title by showing up. Martin unexpectedly wanted to prove himself and deserves a lot of credit for going to the UK to face Joshua but he must know until he beats someone decent, he is the definition of a paper champ.
Given the way in which Martin obtained the IBF title, it is completely meaningless. Nevertheless, that doesn't stop the fight with Joshua, being between two unbeaten contenders, from being a big move in both their careers and undoubtedly a fan friendly fire fight.

This post was unneccesary. Martin already knows that he has a paper title.

That's why he immediately called out Joshua after winning the title. He wants to legitimise the title by fighting a top contender.

He knows that, rightly so, he can no longer be regarded as a paper champion if he beats a top contender like Joshua, who is also considered by many to be the saviour of heavyweight boxing.

[Sledgeweather17]

By your logic Tim Bradley should be knocking people senseless. Punchers are born not made

Tim Bradley is not 6'6 and doesn't weigh over 220lbs.

However, I think neither of you are completely wrong or completely right. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

[The plunger man]

Very easily. He went from being knocked down by Pajcik and rocked by Firtha to outpointing the most dominant heavyweight fighter on the planet. If that ain't improvement I don't know what is. Certainly not Joshua progressing from beating up bums to beating up untested prospects.



That's actually a bad thing. We have no idea how his stamina will hold up in a twelve round fight or how he'll react the first time he fights someone who doesn't crumble to his power.

Whyte was a known ****er at British domestic level. His undefeated record was meaningless because he'd never fought anyone worth a damn.



I'd be happy to put money on a Fury vs Joshua fight provided both fighters haven't lost or degraded badly by that point (the way Fury lives, I wouldn't rule it out). I'll be doing it through the bookies, however, and not with some random bloke off an internet forum.

Now for a start klitchcko is 40 years of age....shall we actually just look at the klitchcko-fury fight and see how poor the performance was from both fighters .....it was probably the most horrible uncoordinated heavyweight boxing fight I have ever seen in my life....I've watched them all, we don't even know if fury can even replicate that in the rematch or whether it was just an off night for klitchcko...one thing I do know is your brave enough to give out predictions on fights but your not brave enough to back it up ......getting dropped by a cruiserweght and simply beating an old underprepared klitchcko is something you should not judge to highly of.....fury was handed a beating by Joshua when he was a 2 fight amateur novice......I know what Joshua will do to fury you think you know...so what's the problem with having a wager with me...simples

[ianjamsie]

Anything that Fury says should be discounted.

He speaks out of his rear end.

He spent 2 months saying he was going to KO Wlad then in the fight never planted his feet long enough to throw a knockout punch.

There will be some reason for this statement. He maybe trying to legitimise this win for Joshua, so when he fights Joshua, no one will call Joshua an inexperienced bum.

[LacedUp]

How the hell can you tell he has improved more than Joshua in the last 2 years....Joshua has not been taken past 7 rounds in his whole career...and given the fact that even Whyte was a known ****er who was also unbeaten....now I will say this to to you as well.....put your money where your mouth is...and judging by silly deontay wilder who has had over 30 fights still lacks boxing savvy and technique and has faced bum after bum since becoming world champion....your see son on April the 9th just how strong and ruthless Joshua will be and this is just the start...now knock Joshua if has been poor but up until now he has pretty much destroyed every opponent and that includes any boxers who were b rated.....he didn't even raise a sweat in all but one of his fights...fury played a game with klitchcko and it payed off...he won't do it with Joshua will walk right through him and land on his chin.....I guarantee you that

Fury also wasn't 24 when he turned pro.

[Fury4daWIN]

Now for a start klitchcko is 40 years of age....shall we actually just look at the klitchcko-fury fight and see how poor the performance was from both fighters .....it was probably the most horrible uncoordinated heavyweight boxing fight I have ever seen in my life....I've watched them all, we don't even know if fury can even replicate that in the rematch or whether it was just an off night for klitchcko...

It'd be very hard to fluke a performance like that for twelve rounds, especially after telling everyone that's what you're going to do. The performance was poor only from an entertainment perspective, and even then I, and many others, were on the edge of our seats throughout. Tactically and strategically it was a masterclass in boxing, mental warfare at the highest level. It's a pity more people can't recognise that and appreciate it.

Joshua's entertaining on a base level. He goes out there, hits people with his fists and knocks them over. But there's no subtlety or finesse in his game. He does what he does because he's bigger and stronger than the rest. With Fury there's so much more going on. You just have to make the effort to look beneath the surface.

I can totally understand people who prefer watching Joshua to Fury but I won't accept when those same people call Fury unskilled or lacking in talent. He possesses both in spades, along with an incredible fighting brain. He lacks in top class physical abilities, which makes him beatable, but I can't think of a fighter who makes more of what he has than Fury right now. There was no way, literally no way, he could have beaten Wlad in a physical boxing contest (even at 40), so he took things to the mental stage and took Wlad's physical superiority away. I believe he'll do the same to any other fighter in the division, barring perhaps Ortiz (who's pretty smart as well).

one thing I do know is your brave enough to give out predictions on fights but your not brave enough to back it up ......getting dropped by a cruiserweght and simply beating an old underprepared klitchcko is something you should not judge to highly of.....fury was handed a beating by Joshua when he was a 2 fight amateur novice......I know what Joshua will do to fury you think you know...so what's the problem with having a wager with me...simples

One, I don't you personally. Two, you're asking me to bet a thousand quid, which is much more than I'd ever put on any sporting contest, under any circumstances. If that paints me as a coward in your eyes, I'll live with that. I'll be putting a decent chunk of change on that fight if it ever gets made, probably around a hundred, which is what I tend to bet on fights whose winner I'm sure of beforehand and whose odds are relatively decent (Wlad vs Haye, May vs Pac).

[removed]

Similar how Fury talked his shot?
Who did Fury fight to earn a shot at Wladimir what a big doofy oaf, Fury even said in sparring AJ was handing his ass to him this could also happen in the pro's If he doesn't change things up drastically.

He fought and won 3 title eliminators. Btw Red Cyclone it's pretty pathetic that you're using Dirk's name on here.

As for all this sparring rubbish. Fury was out of shape and went very easy on him. It was sparring, it means nothing.

It's irreverent anyway, Eddie Hearn isn't putting AJ anywhere near Tyson Fury.

[MrRolltide91]

AJ would KO fury

[b d w]

Now for a start klitchcko is 40 years of age....shall we actually just look at the klitchcko-fury fight and see how poor the performance was from both fighters .....it was probably the most horrible uncoordinated heavyweight boxing fight I have ever seen in my life....I've watched them all, we don't even know if fury can even replicate that in the rematch or whether it was just an off night for klitchcko...one thing I do know is your brave enough to give out predictions on fights but your not brave enough to back it up ......getting dropped by a cruiserweght and simply beating an old underprepared klitchcko is something you should not judge to highly of.....fury was handed a beating by Joshua when he was a 2 fight amateur novice......I know what Joshua will do to fury you think you know...so what's the problem with having a wager with me...simples

Were you actually at that sparring? I'm sure Fury embellished it somewhat because he felt like being kind to the kid. Remember the famous footage of Floyd Mayweather getting handled by Paul Spadafora in sparring? How do you think it would have played out had they fought in an actual fight?

As for Fury beating an old Wlad, well you know that that old Wlad sparred Joshua in a couple of camps previous to that. Try asking people at that camp how Joshua did? The answer is your hero was very very meek in those spars and barely through a punch. By all accounts Parker fared MUCH better at the following camp.

Why do you think Wlad was so keen to fight Joshua had he got past Fury??

Fact is if Tyson ever gets this palooka in the ring he will embarrass him.