I wouldn't let my fighter in with ward either. He just watched one of his bigger guys get dropped and spanked. Feed off those mismatches
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Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View PostWhats the problem? He is right, $10-15 million for a Froche fight in front of 80,000 or peanuts to fight Ward in Oakland in front of 8,000? Everyone has double standards that arent really double standards.
Ward is a huge PPV fight that people wanted to see , and GGG fights bums talking about the bird in the bush while the one at hand is avoided , Abel is full of BS they are protecting GGG .
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Originally posted by SplitSecond View PostNo champ moves out of their weightclass for a non-big fight. Simple.
And still pretending Ward didn't turn Golovkin down when he was at his peak. Ward is past it now.
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Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View PostPacquiao and Mayweather both did that. They moved up in weight and fought guys who weren't exactly big names. Why Can't GGG do that?
Mayweather out of his weightclass is 154, and you can see the names he faced when he moved there. He wouldn't go there to face the likes of Ortiz or Guerrero.
Pacquiao is a more special case but what dragged him to 147 was the big names in Oscar and Cotto and the potential Mayweather bout i.e Big fights, big bucks.
In Golovkins case the big fights and big bucks are right here in his weightclass. Cotto/Alvarez hanging around with a middleweight strap.Last edited by SplitSecond; 03-28-2016, 12:09 AM.
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Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Postyeah, that's what i'm gonna do, take a seat and wait, i'm going for the mods....
lol i have talked with him, he isn't argentine. why does it bother you that i call you larry anyways?? seriously? if you aren't him why bother typing all this? you calling me a ****** tells me that you can't debate either, if you have to recourse to a childish insult to dismiss what is just said you might not be as clever as you think
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Originally posted by SplitSecond View PostExcept they didn't. If they moved up to fight non-big fights then it was because they grew out of the weight.
Mayweather out of his weightclass is 154, and you can see the names he faced when he moved there. He wouldn't go there to face the likes of Ortiz or Guerrero.
Pacquiao is a more special case but what dragged him to 147 was the big names in Oscar and Cotto and the potential Mayweather bout i.e Big fights, big bucks.
In Golovkins case the big fights and big bucks are right here in his weightclass. Cotto/Alvarez hanging around with a middleweight strap.
Face it, Golovkins team is scared of Ward. They are using the money excuse as just an excuse. Outside of Cotto, Canelo, and Chavez Jr, Ward is the biggest name of active fighters out there around Golovkins weight. Mayweather and Froch are both retired.Last edited by Johnwoo8686; 03-28-2016, 12:20 AM.
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Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View PostWhats the problem? He is right, $10-15 million for a Froche fight in front of 80,000 or peanuts to fight Ward in Oakland in front of 8,000? Everyone has double standards that arent really double standards.
Try and belittle Ward all you want, the man sold 8500 tickets (as a person who was actually there, the entire lower bowl of Oracle Arena, sans a section right behind the media, was packed in; with Oracle being what it is, I'd figure that 10k were easily in the building) and is rumored to have done a live gate of almost $1m.
Ward has a base in the Bay Area/Northern California, Golovkin has a base in LA/Southern California, Ward vs Golovkin is a legit "OMG, this is going down" kind of matchup, and this fight is the first legit time that either guy was actually suppose to be on PPV (in a showdown that HBO could sell rather easily).
You add that Golovkin is likely to split the take on the fight near 50/50 with Ward (fight likely would merit a sizeable site fee from MGM Resorts; Roc Nation has business with Barclays Center and Golovkin is unlikely to come to Oakland, leaving The Forum/Staples Center as likely other venues for the fight), and the logic behind ducking Ward gets even flimsier.
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Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View PostNonsense. Pacquiao moved up to lightweight to fight David Diaz. Floyd moved up in weight to face the likes of Sharmba Mitchell. Andre Ward is a much bigger name than any of those guys. Golovkin has to move down in weight to make the 160 pound limit. Sanchez said GGG is weighing at 164 right now and has been cutting for a few weeks. Golovkin most likely walks around at 170.
Face it, Golovkins team is scared of Ward. They are using the money excuse as just an excuse. Outside of Cotto, Canelo, and Chavez Jr, Ward is the biggest name of active fighters out there around Golovkins weight. Mayweather and Froch are both retired.
Golovkin considering his stature and physical attributes is punching over his weight at 168, just like with Pacquiao at 147 and Mayweather at 154. It's at the point of structurally larger men not just midgets who pack on some lbs and drain in the last minute in hopes of having a strength advantage.
Mayweather nor Pacquiao would have taken those extra steps without the big fights enticing them.
And yea dummy. Golovkin is afraid of Ward now, the lethargic Ward, but wasn't afraid of Ward when he was at his peak. That's logical.
Think about this. If Golovkin had agreed to Wards terms back in 2015. The earliest this fight would happen would be later this year. So when Golovkin would be preparing to fight Andre Ward later this year at 168 after Murdok or Brand, he could've instead possibly been in preparation for a bigger fight which was in his weight-class with the superstar Saul Alvarez, coming off victories over names like Miguel Cotto and Amir Khan. How ****** do you think his management would feel then, for ignoring the big name in his weight-class whom they were mandatory to?
Gotta shut up those 5 Ward "fans" doe.Last edited by SplitSecond; 03-28-2016, 01:27 AM.
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post-Froch and Groves split $15m on one of the biggest fights to hit England (maxing out on basically all revenue streams, sans maybe German/Russian TV); what logical explanation is there for Golovkin (on his own) to get $10m? What is Carl Froch supposed to take home on the fight?
Try and belittle Ward all you want, the man sold 8500 tickets (as a person who was actually there, the entire lower bowl of Oracle Arena, sans a section right behind the media, was packed in; with Oracle being what it is, I'd figure that 10k were easily in the building) and is rumored to have done a live gate of almost $1m.
Ward has a base in the Bay Area/Northern California, Golovkin has a base in LA/Southern California, Ward vs Golovkin is a legit "OMG, this is going down" kind of matchup, and this fight is the first legit time that either guy was actually suppose to be on PPV (in a showdown that HBO could sell rather easily).
You add that Golovkin is likely to split the take on the fight near 50/50 with Ward (fight likely would merit a sizeable site fee from MGM Resorts; Roc Nation has business with Barclays Center and Golovkin is unlikely to come to Oakland, leaving The Forum/Staples Center as likely other venues for the fight), and the logic behind ducking Ward gets even flimsier.
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