Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach Explains Why Froch is Worth 168, But Not Ward

[kafkod]

Odd that all I hear from from his fans is what a warrior he is and that everyone else is a diva. Wouldn't the guy who seems to be ONLY concerned about money be the diva? Especially when he called another guy out at 168 and ran like hell once the contractual chains were off Ward.

Lol. You don't need to run from a guy who asks you to sign a contract to fight him ... sometime next year ... after I've had my tune-ups ... and if I don't turn up, start without me.

Wait till HBO and Duva start trying to get Ward in a ring with Kovalev later this year, then you'll see what a boxer running like hell away from a fight REALLY looks like!

[Xi_]

Canelo was 165 on fight night vs Floyd. Not his usual 170+.

Canelo weighed in at 153 for his fight vs trout just a few months earlier(he had to lose one lil pound extra for Floyd, who was the clear A side, unlike the the ggg-ward situation where he tried to make ward lose 4 more pound)..... Y'all are acting as if canelo was a dead man like dlh when he fought pacquiao. If canelo was drained, so was cotto when he fought pacquiao.

[SplitSecond]

Canelo weighed in at 153 for his fight vs trout just a few months earlier..... Y'all are acting as if canelo was a dead man like dlh when he fought pacquiao. If canelo was drained, so was cotto when he fought pacquiao.

How much was he on fight night vs Trout just a few months earlier?

[Xi_]

How much was he on fight night vs Trout just a few months earlier?

Who gives a crap? There was no rehydration clause on the the Floyd vs canelo fight..... If he decided not to rehydrate to 170+ that's his problem.

[simms601]

So it is about the money and not about so called "being great"? LOL! Man, this ish is just amazing...

[Redd Foxx]

Lol. You don't need to run from a guy who asks you to sign a contract to fight him ... sometime next year ... after I've had my tune-ups ... and if I don't turn up, start without me.

Wait till HBO and Duva start trying to get Ward in a ring with Kovalev later this year, then you'll see what a boxer running like hell away from a fight REALLY looks like!

When your only means of defending your argument comes from fantasy scenarios and predictions you've created, it means you've lost the argument.

[kafkod]

When your only means of defending your argument comes from fantasy scenarios and predictions you've created, it means you've lost the argument.

What fantasy? Ward sent Loeffler an offer asking GGG to sign a contract to commit to fighting him, at 168, on some unspecified date the following year, and he sent it knowing that Golovkin was already committed to chasing his mando shot against the winner of Cotto/Canelo and unifying his own division, starting with Lemieux and the IBF title.

It was a PR stunt and nothing more. Loeffler treated it with the contempt it deserved.

My prediction is that Ward won't fight Kovalev. I've thought that ever since the match was first suggested and nothing has happened since then to make me change my mind.

[kafkod]

I don't ever want to here from GGG's fans another word about anyone ducking him.

Canelo is using his bull**** catchweight demand to duck his mandatory obligation to fight Golovkin at 160 lbs.

[kafkod]

So when Ward talks about boxing being a business, that fights have to make financial sense, it is all good and it's OK to stand behind his comments.

When Lil G's team says the same kind of thing, it's because they know they would have lost the fight, even though they countered Ward with a compromise offer, one that Ward refused I might add.

It's amazing how when the situation fits an agenda it's gold but when it goes against said agenda, it's schit.

When Ward talks like that he's an intelligent, thinking, professional athlete, who weighs up every situation carefully and does what's best for him and his career, instead of letting money grabbing promoters and networks dictate to him.

GGG should let everybody dictate to him and fight anybody, any time, at whatever weight they tell him to fight them at, otherwise he's a li'l g string coward.

[LoadedWraps]

Good post, but let me play Devils's Advocate for a sec.

All I changed was the names in bold.....

OK, lol, but the differences are that GGG wasn't inactive, his resume is chit, but at least he has been fighting cans with titles or cans who were ranked by (whoever) high enough to contend.

I get the criticisms about Golovkin, but I don't get how people dislike him. I think he is the real deal and cannot be beaten by anyone in his weight range right now.

I don't dislike Ward, but the guy has had two fights since the Ice Age, and his fanbase can fill up a short bus. He isn't the A-side to anyone, and he has no business being on any p4p list unless it's the p4p list of announcers, and even there he's fringe top 15.

By the end of the year that will change no doubt, barring an injury, but I have to call a spade a spade.

And did GGG's team blow negotiations at one point? I don't know, maybe. But that's on his team, that doesn't make GGG afraid of anyone. The man fears nothing, and will walk through anyone. I hope we get to see it happen to every name brought up too, I love feeding a good dish of crow on NSB.