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  • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
    I don't know ... why do you spastic casual fans find it reasonable to have double standards?
    Lol so you answer a man who has mad respect in here by repeating his quote back to him verbatim? Wow! Thats all I can say to you doc.

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    • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
      1. Pac Cotto was 145, not 144
      2. Pac was no welter champ, never been one, was coming up in weight
      3. The bolded is a hilarious lie
      Aaaaaahhhhhhhh hero, Im surprised at you. Ask delahoya about that. When pac fought oscar it was at 147. Oscar hadn't fought at that wt in over 7 years. But he agreed to it. The contractual stipulation was oscar had to wt 147 on fight night. This prevented him from rehydrating to higher wt levels. This stopped oscar from having stamina and power. While clever on roaches part it vaulted pac into the mainstream. And my friend as an ex politician, I never lie.

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      • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
        I know you're one of the ******est trolls here, but Marquez weight drained is rofl. You know what that means, cretin?
        Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
        That's not my quote. That ****** I quoted doesn't know how to markup. But yes, he was saying Marquez was drained vs Floyd lololol.
        Clearly you don't understand how things work. But I know what you're doing: you only understand "drain" to mean a person had to drop weight.

        "Drained" means you are devoid of your true energy/power because you are not at your ideal weight.

        If you dehydrate OR bloat too fast or too far, you feel drained. This is the feeling, NOT the direction.

        Marquez is on record as saying he felt "drained" during the Mayweather fight. That's because he was carrying nearly 15 lbs more than his walking weight. You try bulking beyond your normal walking weight and I guarantee you that you will feel drained. Tired. Less than energetic. Lethargic.

        Fact remains. Marquez even AT optimal weight stood no chance against Floyd. Focus on that.

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        • I don't ever want to here from GGG's fans another word about anyone ducking him.

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          • Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
            Did you forget about the Corrales fight? Floyd was an underdog in the fight, yet he dropped him 5 times and stopped him. Canelo, pacman, DLH, Hatton, to name a few, we're all good fights at the time, until floyd made them look silly now we look back and say they had no business being in the ring with him. Floyd did fight the best of his era, just no one really stand a chance
            Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
            It's amazing how much **** we had to hear before all of these fights mentioned above (plus a few more), how the other guy was a problem and Mayweather was going to lose.

            Then after its the same b.s. "He was past it." "He's a bum." "He had no chance." "It was a cherry pick."

            Same old ****. It never fails
            Re-read my post carefully.

            I said AFTER 10-years in the business, he took less risks. This is fact. Chico Corrales was during his first 10 years in the business - he fought him just under 6 years pro.

            None of the ones you mentioned AFTER the first 10 years, with the exception of Oscar (like I said) had any chance of beating Floyd stylistically. Good fights for business, but they were all going to end with a TBE victory. Anyone who thought otherwise was fooling themselves.

            Judah was the only opponent I thought had a chance at beating Floyd, and even then I was proven wrong.

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            • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
              Aaaaaahhhhhhhh hero, Im surprised at you. Ask delahoya about that. When pac fought oscar it was at 147. Oscar hadn't fought at that wt in over 7 years. But he agreed to it. The contractual stipulation was oscar had to wt 147 on fight night. This prevented him from rehydrating to higher wt levels. This stopped oscar from having stamina and power. While clever on roaches part it vaulted pac into the mainstream. And my friend as an ex politician, I never lie.
              First Cotto, now Oscar. Which one is it that had a rehydration clause? Please provide some links.

              There's no way 147 was the rehydration limit for Oscar:

              1. That wouldn't be sanctioned anywhere on medical grounds, it's far worse than same day weighing which is deemed too dangerous
              2. Oscar was the A side by far, no way he agrees to a rehydration clause of any kind, much less 147
              3. Pac was 148.5 fight night. How does that work with a 147 limit?

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              • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
                Lol so you answer a man who has mad respect in here by repeating his quote back to him verbatim? Wow! Thats all I can say to you doc.
                If you have mad respect for that biased trolling idiot you must be as ******ed as he is.

                It will be cold day in hell when I start giving a fuck what morons like you say to me.

                And you should drop the Bugs Bunny impersonation, btw, that just makes your posts look even dumber.

                Eeeeeh ... what's up doc?.. munch munch ..
                Last edited by kafkod; 03-28-2016, 07:17 PM.

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                • Odd that all I hear from from his fans is what a warrior he is and that everyone else is a diva. Wouldn't the guy who seems to be ONLY concerned about money be the diva? Especially when he called another guy out at 168 and ran like hell once the contractual chains were off Ward.

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                  • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
                    Hey doc don't try to knock my post because you have an acute inability to be concise and clear. Then you go to the moron handbook and proceed with name calling to make up for your short coming. Like I said canelo was over 170lbs on fight night so how was he hampered by the cw?????? And check HBO fight night wts ggg has tipped the scales at 174lbs in the past. So before you get all emotional please check your facts.
                    Canelo weighed over 170 lbs on fight night vs Floyd, so how was he hampered by having to hit 152 for the weigh in?

                    Are you serious, or is that an ironic joke?

                    And you are still ducking the point of my post, which is that Floyd wouldn't fight Canelo at the same weight he fought Cotto.

                    He fought Cotto at the standard SWW limit of 154, but wouldn't fight Canelo unless he agreed to a catchweight.

                    Did you get it that time, Bugs?

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                    • Canelo was 165 on fight night vs Floyd. Not his usual 170+.

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