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  • Ray*
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    #101
    The man is a joke really. I think because he came from the Ali era people automatically thinks he is a respectable writer and he isnt the steve kim or these world but he is. Anyone that has an alleigance to one side and constantly writer or try to find negativity about one side only would always be a joke to me. Have you ever seen him write any "Investigative reports" about Arum and his stable?
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    • Mitchell Kane
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      #102
      Originally posted by original zero
      all he needs is two of those networks to want what he's got and he'll have a bidding war on his hands.
      See, you see it as a bidding war between two networks for the rights of PBC.

      What's keeping the networks from making the PBC bid against Top Rank, Golden Boy, Main Events, etc?

      Why wouldn't they make the PBC bid against other promoters, and see who's willing to put fights on cheaper.

      The PBC has already pushed most promoters promoters off of basic cable television...Top Rank or Golden Boy may not even ask for that much money from a network on a per fight card basis, so long as it pays them more than UniMas or Estrella TV, which isn't much.
      Last edited by Mitchell Kane; 03-24-2016, 03:35 AM.

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        #103
        Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
        What's keeping the networks from making the PBC bid against Top Rank, Golden Boy, Main Events, etc?
        because haymon is loaded with world champions, especially american world champions.

        and haymon is the one that spent the money to establish a unified brand with dozens of champions and contenders that can be featured like a traditional sports league.

        and haymon has proven that his fighters can generate millions of viewers.

        3.5 million tuned in to watch danny garcia on fox. 4.2 million tuned in to watch keith thurman on nbc.

        haymon's guys are becoming the biggest stars in boxing right under your nose, but you don't see it because you're in the HBO propaganda bubble. yes, HBO controls the hardcore fans, but the networks control the casual sports fans. haymon doesn't need the hardcore fans to be successful and as much as they ***** and moan, he knows they're going to watch anyway.

        but what could top rank or golden boy or main events, on their own, possibly offer to the networks compared to what haymon can offer?

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          #104
          What alias does Hauser goes under on the forum?

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            #105
            Originally posted by Quiksilva
            What alias does Hauser goes under on the forum?
            I've always suspected Doktor Sleepless of being someone fairly well known in the industry.

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              #106
              Originally posted by original zero
              i think it's pretty clear haymon wanted as many networks involved as possible so there would be as many potential bidders involved when it came time to sell the rights.

              all he needs is two of those networks to want what he's got and he'll have a bidding war on his hands.

              so for those questioning the strategy of "dartboard" scheduling... what they're missing is that it's an effort to maximize the chances of multiple interested parties so achieve maximum value from the "winning" bidder.
              Idk if I necessarily agree with this. Its not like ESPN, Spike & Bounce are gonna be competing with NBC, CBS or Fox when it comes to finding out where PBC lands. I suppose there could be an element of that in all this cuz some of these networks are competing, but I feel like there was more of a desire to block competitors from getting on some of these networks & having boxers realize if they wanna be on TV being with Haymon greatly improves your chances of doing so. I've felt like an important part of his strategy is just getting guys who aren't the tip top HBO guys, up & coming guys & top class of 2016 fighters coming to PBC due to TV options. Plus with his 200+ fighters he just sorta needs a lot of TV time to grow names + keep them active.

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                #107
                Originally posted by Quiksilva
                What alias does Hauser goes under on the forum?
                Anorak

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                • Mitchell Kane
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by original zero
                  and haymon has proven that his fighters can generate millions of viewers.

                  3.5 million tuned in to watch danny garcia on fox. 4.2 million tuned in to watch keith thurman on nbc.
                  Only a few of his fighters have generated high ratings. Danny Garcia and Keith Thurman are among them.

                  Those fighters cost money. Will a network like ESPN really be giving the kind of money that can pay for that level of fighters?

                  And even if they pay that much money to make a Garcia or Thurman fight on network tv possible, given that there are so many PBC fighters, if they give the PBC a long-term deal what control does a network retain to ensure that the fighters who do generate the highest ratings are actually fighting on their network and not on some other PBC network, or CBS/SHO?

                  I'm sure a network doesn't want to pay Danny Garcia prices only to wind up televising Victor Ortiz fights.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
                    See, you see it as a bidding war between two networks for the rights of PBC.

                    What's keeping the networks from making the PBC bid against Top Rank, Golden Boy, Main Events, etc?

                    Why wouldn't they make the PBC bid against other promoters, and see who's willing to put fights on cheaper.

                    The PBC has already pushed most promoters promoters off of basic cable television...Top Rank or Golden Boy may not even ask for that much money from a network on a per fight card basis, so long as it pays them more than UniMas or Estrella TV, which isn't much.
                    You act like it's a level playing field lol. Haymon has inside guys at all the networks... no chance they ever talk to GBP/TR.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by original zero
                      i think it's pretty clear haymon wanted as many networks involved as possible so there would be as many potential bidders involved when it came time to sell the rights.

                      all he needs is two of those networks to want what he's got and he'll have a bidding war on his hands.

                      so for those questioning the strategy of "dartboard" scheduling... what they're missing is that it's an effort to maximize the chances of multiple interested parties so achieve maximum value from the "winning" bidder.
                      I don't think this is true. I think he wants deals with all the networks

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