Too Short concert or Ward-Barrera?

[Dobie G]

In three simple paragraphs, I showed that you're entire statement was largely utter ****. try to spin it if you want

You actually have man love. I get it. My bad. I actually respect your lifestyle choice. It's cool and I'm so glad that you are getting equal rights.

[Dobie G]

Golovkin is fighting in a foreign market and is bigger than a guy in his backyard. It was a papered crowd but with local fans. Not a papered crowd in ac or vegas where people just happen to be in town. theres a difference. GGG Wade will have at least 5,000 more people in attendance than ward barrera and ward barrera will have several thousand more give aways

Don't speak logic to him. He's basing things off of analytics (****>lytics). Who looks for prices of tickets unless they are obsessed.

You and I and most "normal" people know he's from a foreign country (though I said Kazakhstan initially, he quotes conveniently the Russia post...because he's odd) and that automatically means you are not going to have a "HOME" audience unless you are Mexican in the western U.S. but he won't let a fact get in the way of a solid lie.

I'm amazed that he's not ****d here. It's rare I see someone so simple quoting people so often as if he makes sense?

[Dobie G]

Ringside tickets for under $150 simply puts things in context (no different than Canelo putting 40k people into the building with $20 tickets); ignore that if you want.

Crawford sold out his hometown twice, yet Top Rank only felt confident enough to put him in the small room at MSG

Oh BTW, ringside seats at Stub Hub have NEVER been 150. Just saying. I've been to too many fights there including that one and I was not ringside and it was 150 above the apron.

Crawford did sell out twice at home. Did Andre? No. How many times did they put Andre in any room at MSG? My bad, he doesn't like to leave Cali for the most part and New York is scary.

Just admit you love him.

[Dobie G]

Skyler... check this out. There are actually Ward huggers.

[BrometheusBob.]

It's hilarious boxing fans are hating on a talented fighter over ticket sales?

Soon to come, a thread called "Why do boxing fans hate top fighters over ticket sales" where the OP says "Post and discuss."

[Irony123]

a couple points:

-the live gate was only ever disclosed as being $2m
-there's no mention of the costs related to actually putting on the event (renting out MSG, commercials/marketing pieces, nuts-and-bolts promoter stuff, etc)

A lot of the information is unknown, but I have no doubt that the actual cost of putting on the event likely went over $1m, and there's no way that Golovkin-Lemieux did $3m in raw ticket sales at the gate (if K2 was willing to lose their **** over Golovkin selling $150k in merch for a fight, you would be wise to expect a similar reaction if Golovkin was able to rival the business that Miguel Cotto does at the gate for a fight).

Even the few numbers that folks cant take a guess at aren't really adding up to a breakeven (unless the Canadian PPV ended up doing massive business)

I doubt it, break even is likely the worst case scenario, they also set the merchandising sales record for the garden. I just don't see how this fight could have lost money. lets say it did cost 1 million to put the event and 4 milliion for purses.

costs =5 million

income from live gate and ppv alone is approximately 4 million. everything else i listed would have to have not made much money for this fight to have a loss. GGG is an international fighter, if his fight aired in 10-15 countries outside of the US the income generated there would push this closer to a break even fight. To me i dont see how any of Ward fights break even but this fight i see as a break even as a worst case scenario.

[therealpugilist]

wards ability to sell tickets are a joke. he cant sell out his living room if his life depended on it.

as a boxing fan......if you are really a boxing fan.....who the **** cares....when did fans of a sport give a damn about ticket sales? Are yall running out of material to bash a boxer with?

has anyone beat him? is he elite? do you get a cut of the ticket sales

Does ticket sales have anything to do with skills or accomplishment? Its real lame...oh he dont sell tickets doe...corny AF

[Death_Adder]

Didn't Too Short die of AIDS?

I had no idea the Ward fight was this weekend? Is it on BET again?

[Mr. 29K]

Didn't Too Short die of AIDS?

I had no idea the Ward fight was this weekend? Is it on BET again?

welcome back, amigo!

[Death_Adder]

welcome back, amigo!

Good to be back