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  • #91
    Originally posted by revelated View Post
    Dude, you can't forget A-side. Floyd Money Mayweather was allowed free reign for catchweights regardless of championship status. Never stripped. Not until he retired when they were not afraid of losing that money anymore.

    Canelo is right behind Floyd in terms of money power. That's fact. They will not force him to do anything he refuses to do. Mark my words.

    A-side.




    Canelo came down for Floyd. Weakened him. But at the same time, made him a better fighter. He hasn't lost since. Arguably he's a way better fighter now. He wasn't desperate. He was smart. He made multi-millions simply by going by the A-side rules.

    GGG wasn't "just talking" about going down to 154 either, I don't buy it. I believe if Floyd agreed and it was booked at 9 figures, GGG would be cutting like a mofo. And then get schooled. And then people would just say "weight drained doe" instead of giving Floyd credit for being TBE.



    Golovkin has to choose.

    So far he's been called out by

    Saunders
    Eubank
    Lee
    Ward
    Lara

    Of that list, three of the five I believe would school Golovkin at 160. The other two would be destroyed inside of 8 rounds. But the point is, GGG isn't facing any of them either.

    All I'm saying is, either agree to Canelo's terms and fight him under HIS rules after he retires Khan, or fight one of the other guys that are in the class and don't worry about catchweights. Stop fighting pies or stop whining.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by cork View Post
      You actually think Saunders Eubanks Lara Lee actually wanted the ggg fight? Have you ever seen any of them make a formal offer? Did you see Saunders turn down a career high payday avoiding ggg? Lara the guy who still fighting at 154 haven't even attempt to move up on weight or attempt to even fight decent fighters in his own weight class? You actually believe them?
      Doesn't matter what I believe. A call out is a call out.

      Khan DID call out Floyd despite having no chance of getting that fight.
      Briggs DID call out Klitschko despite having zero chance of beating him.

      Bottom line is, there are plenty of quality name fighters for GGG to prove himself against if he's not willing to play A-side games. That's all I'm saying. Step up or shut up.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by revelated View Post
        Doesn't matter what I believe. A call out is a call out.

        Khan DID call out Floyd despite having no chance of getting that fight.
        Briggs DID call out Klitschko despite having zero chance of beating him.

        Bottom line is, there are plenty of quality name fighters for GGG to prove himself against if he's not willing to play A-side games. That's all I'm saying. Step up or shut up.
        Are you just conveniently ignoring the part where Saunders turn down a formal offer for a career high payday? Then calls him out when his fight finally got finalized with wade? You actually took him seriously? You call that a call out? If Saunders didn't ***** out he and ggg would be fighting in a couple of weeks.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by revelated View Post
          Doesn't matter what I believe. A call out is a call out.

          Khan DID call out Floyd despite having no chance of getting that fight.
          Briggs DID call out Klitschko despite having zero chance of beating him.

          Bottom line is, there are plenty of quality name fighters for GGG to prove himself against if he's not willing to play A-side games. That's all I'm saying. Step up or shut up.
          a call out is a call out except when ggg called ward out and ward said he wasn't ready. and later when a-side ggg tried to fight ward at 164 you supported that right? oh no you said ggg ducked ward because ward called him out and b-side ward wanted a 50-50 split. all that a-side business went right out the window. convenient!

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          • #95
            they should make a cartoon about canelo. they can call it canelo the cowardly mexican. I'm trademarking it.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
              Alvarez is no more of a middleweight champ than Cotto was.

              Canelo is LESS than Cotto was.

              Cotto never fought AT middleweight, but he did fight A middleweight.

              Canelo has never done either of those things.

              I have been saying that Canelo is obviously a JMW for a very long time now.

              He should obviously drop the silly belt.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
                Alvarez is no more of a middleweight champ than Cotto was.
                Actually Cotto was more of a MW champ. He fight Martinez at 159 and Degeale at 157......the ONLY TIME HE FOUGHT AT 155 WAS CANELO......

                Cotto has more balls, outboxed Canelo but Roach gave him the wrong gameplan.... If he'd focused more on the hook to the body with power and varied his shots with more power, he would have won....

                Canelo has ZERO CHANCE of beating GGG throwing 450 punches.....and after watching the fight a few times, I don't believe either the punches thrown or landed by Canelo. I can see giving it to him on landing harder punches but only by a couple points.....

                GGG will destroy him if he fights that way with his cement shoes on......he has no chance except to weaken GGG.....and frankly, I hope they settle on 157. At 154-155, Canelo already comes in 4+ pounds heavier then when GGG weighs in at 158+......so really....what is the problem with Canelo?? He will still outweigh GGG.

                Cinnamon's team is scared ****less and despite the 'we have other big $$ options'? Not as big $$ as GGG.....unless Floyd comes back for #50 and the MW TITLE AT 155.....which I just don't see. Who else is going to gate as high as GGG at 147-154? NOBODY.....

                GGG is the man at 160 & if Canelo avoidS that fight? He will lose A LOT OF FANS.......even Oscar knows it and still does not want him near GGG. Canelo is built for an inside fighter.....but insists on outboxing opponents......so.....the problem?

                He can't outbox or outbrawl GGG....and he'll probably get beat by Andrade just like he did vs Trout and especially Lara......so do they secretly want Khan to win?? LMAO......Poor Oscar.....Golden Boys Golden Goose is about to get cooked anyway you cut it....SHAME
                MEXICAN FANS DON'T LIKE IT WHEN THEIR HEROES PUNK OUT......
                Last edited by ssc73; 03-15-2016, 11:06 PM.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                  Have you considered the possibility that GGG couldn't make 155 without seriously weakening himself?

                  He's almost 34 years old and has never fought below 160 in his whole career. I know he said he could make 154 for Floyd, but he knew he would never have to back that up. It was just talk, like when Ward said he would go to 160 for Floyd.

                  Boxers don't agree to weaken themselves by weight draining to the extent that they can't perform properly unless they are desperate or dumb, and GGG is neither. Neither is BJS, which is why he wouldn't go to 155 for Canelo either.

                  I'm sure Golovkin would love to fight Canelo for the WBC belt, which is why he agreed to give him more time, but he doesn't NEED to do it. In the long term, going in drained and losing would cost him more money than he would make from the fight, and at his age, he isn't going to get a second chance to be where he is now.

                  Last October, Team Golovkin stated that Gennady can beat anyone at 154.

                  So, either..... Golovkin is nothing but a fkn LIAR, or he can make 154.

                  Which is it ?

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                  • #99
                    FACT: you clowns will NEVER hold Hypekin to his bull****

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                    • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      Last October, Team Golovkin stated that Gennady can beat anyone at 154.

                      So, either..... Golovkin is nothing but a fkn LIAR, or he can make 154.

                      Which is it ?
                      He might be able to.......but this have for the Jr MW title.......it's for the MW title ace whip you fight at what weight mashed a difference. I think GGG would crush him either way......but he has the iron to do it at proper weight. Canelo cab take ur ur leave it but if he leaves it? He loses half his faithful buyers........guaranteed

                      And even he refuses to fight GGG, guess who the a-dude will be if Canelo and his team grow a set??
                      Last edited by ssc73; 03-15-2016, 11:13 PM.

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