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  • tiliheels
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    #81
    Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth
    I understand styles completly. Have watched this sport since I was a kid. Styles prove themselves all the time, look at the mma fights last weekened. What about Wach vs Wlad? Wach was juiced in that one and Wlad couldnt ko him. Povetkin koes Wach in Nov, and Wach was again suspect of peds. Wach already has a granite chin and Povetkin still koed him. Styles make fights, but cannot be used as an excuse. What matters is the wins and losses. Teper is nothing special, even on the juice he nothing special, you talk about guys fighting a name. Tepers biggest name is Dupah, only because Dupah got a title shot. Still what has Dupah done after Wilder? Beat a bum, he has a good fight coming against Helenius. Helenius has not been relevant in years, so if he beats Dupah then what?

    I think you are overating Wilders powers as well. Yea he can punch, but with his size, length/leverage he should be able to. But he doesnt have devastating power, Stiverne, Dupah, Splitzy all walked through his punches. They just were not good enough and took too many punches that eventually folded them. I wouldnt lean on Wilder too much just yet man, he may crumble sooner then later. He has a lot to prove.
    povetkin eats jabs and left hooks...he'll do worst than duhap in my honest opinion..his guard is to open and his head movment wont matter due to wilder accuracy and quickness..this is not fan boy stuff..i really do think duhap is a good fighter..no where near great but he is pretty complete man..just not an athlete

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    • tiliheels
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      #82
      Originally posted by kafkod
      Your obsessive hatred of Golovkin is driving you insane.

      Ward's first 2 opponents back are Paul Smith and Sulivan Barrera.

      Least said about Smith the better.

      Sulivan Barrera is a 17 novice pro who's best win is Karo Murat.

      Dominic Wade, GGG's next mandatory opponent, is ranked higher than Barrera by Fight.news and Boxrec.

      Get a fucking grip man.
      rank all u want, but the truth is sullivan has captured all the fans that he ran across...wade has not...wade struggle din his step up..sullivan knocked out who bhop couldnt...
      like i said man it hink sullivan is better and more respectable than ggg' last 2 years of fights..i just dont like it bru..

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        #83
        Originally posted by kafkod
        Duhaupus didn't even have a top 30 ranking and Wilder fought him as a voluntary.

        I can imagine the bleating coming from you and the rest of the GGG hate squad if Golovkin picked a walking punch bag like Duhaupas, ranked 32 in the world, as a voluntary.

        GTFOH you clown.
        see i dont care about rankings when i see a style that can cause hell..they can rank willie monroe 200th, but if monroe promised not to run and that he will stay in ggg's chest and not wait until he's been hurt to much..I'D WATCH THAT **** AND GIVE HIM A SHOT TO WIN...AND JUST LIKE WILDER HAD TO DO MORE GGG WOULD HAVE TO DO MORE OR BE IN A VERY CLOSE FIGHT..

        i didnt mind pascal 2 with kovalev..except for the fact that i knew pascal was not going to make it a fire fight from round 1 bc he doesnt like taking punishmnet anymore...

        i like resistence not numbers bru...im a true fan..not of just wilder, but of all of boxing...duhap was better than wilder at every facet except speed and power....but then wilder showed me that if u take his jab away he can still be an offensive force...ADJUSTMENTS BEING MADE PROVE SOMETHING
        and styles make adjustments come about..NOT RANKINGS

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        • SilverMiles
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          #84
          Originally posted by tiliheels
          and he basically lost in many ppls mind..and soliman's knee played a part in those odds...so dont be ******..
          Look idiot, you posted something that was false and was proven wrong. Don't be upset you're not smart enough to do research before posting. You said no top ten but he already fought a top ten and was favored. The end result of the fight has nothing to do with the odds. If anything it proves odds are a fallacy only used by little maggot fanboys when trying to prove something.

          Still doesn't change the fact that Canelo vs Wade would be closer odds wise than GGG vs Khan. And it doesn't change the fact that neither fight is competive on paper.

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            #85
            Originally posted by SilverMiles
            Look idiot, you posted something that was false and was proven wrong. Don't be upset you're not smart enough to do research before posting. You said no top ten but he already fought a top ten and was favored. The end result of the fight has nothing to do with the odds. If anything it proves odds are a fallacy only used by little maggot fanboys when trying to prove something.

            Still doesn't change the fact that Canelo vs Wade would be closer odds wise than GGG vs Khan. And it doesn't change the fact that neither fight is competive on paper.
            prove how childish or casual you are! or accept it like a man that i know my ish..and god knows soliman isnt a top ten anything except for on paper..hell a crazed mentally ***ed taylor dorpped him time after time...

            and i dont agree canelo vs wade would not be something to brag about in odds..it would be 20 to 1 if not more..it might change if wade whoops up on ggg some..

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              #86
              Originally posted by tiliheels
              see i dont care about rankings when i see a style that can cause hell..they can rank willie monroe 200th, but if monroe promised not to run and that he will stay in ggg's chest and not wait until he's been hurt to much..I'D WATCH THAT **** AND GIVE HIM A SHOT TO WIN...AND JUST LIKE WILDER HAD TO DO MORE GGG WOULD HAVE TO DO MORE OR BE IN A VERY CLOSE FIGHT..

              i didnt mind pascal 2 with kovalev..except for the fact that i knew pascal was not going to make it a fire fight from round 1 bc he doesnt like taking punishmnet anymore...

              i like resistence not numbers bru...im a true fan..not of just wilder, but of all of boxing...duhap was better than wilder at every facet except speed and power....but then wilder showed me that if u take his jab away he can still be an offensive force...ADJUSTMENTS BEING MADE PROVE SOMETHING
              and styles make adjustments come about..NOT RANKINGS
              This is asinine. You should take a break from posting, the heat from the laptop is cause your brain to leak out.

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              • SilverMiles
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                #87
                Originally posted by tiliheels
                prove how childish or casual you are! or accept it like a man that i know my ish..and god knows soliman isnt a top ten anything except for on paper..hell a crazed mentally ***ed taylor dorpped him time after time...

                and i dont agree canelo vs wade would not be something to brag about in odds..it would be 20 to 1 if not more..it might change if wade whoops up on ggg some..
                Taylor scored a grand total zero knockdowns on Soliman. If you think Soliman collapsing on the ground due to a knee injury is knockdowns, it goes to show how dumb you truly are.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by SilverMiles
                  This is asinine. You should take a break from posting, the heat from the laptop is cause your brain to leak out.
                  how is it asinine..when monroe was ranked lower than lemuel and put up a better fight??
                  chino ranked lower than pac..and put up a better fight
                  and i really think duhap will do better than povetkin judging teh styles and not the names..
                  jennings did better than povetkin vs wlad and wasnt ranked higher than povetkin
                  fury got knocked down by journeymen type guys but beat wlad...

                  STYLES MAKE FIGHTS! yes i get it eventually you want to beat all the top guys but when i see a good style matchup i dont b1tch about it

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                  • tiliheels
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by SilverMiles
                    Taylor scored a grand total zero knockdowns on Soliman. If you think Soliman collapsing on the ground due to a knee injury is knockdowns, it goes to show how dumb you truly are.
                    well u just made my point fool...that knee caused vegas to say nope to him and yes to wade...but who knows wade comes forward he might not mind being in the chest off ggg and it might make a good fight...i think canelo khan if a good matchup of styles for as long as khan can take it or be faster...canelo will at least be made to look of man and not superhero..

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                    • SilverMiles
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by tiliheels
                      how is it asinine..when monroe was ranked lower than lemuel and put up a better fight??
                      chino ranked lower than pac..and put up a better fight
                      and i really think duhap will do better than povetkin judging teh styles and not the names..
                      jennings did better than povetkin vs wlad and wasnt ranked higher than povetkin
                      fury got knocked down by journeymen type guys but beat wlad...

                      STYLES MAKE FIGHTS! yes i get it eventually you want to beat all the top guys but when i see a good style matchup i dont b1tch about it
                      1. Monroe didn't put up a better fight than Lemule. I don't even know how you come to that conclusion.

                      2. There's a clear difference between top ten fighters and fighting a guy that is Duhapas.

                      3. You reasoning makes no sense. So since Duhapas put up a better fight against Wilder than Monroe did against GGG, Wider should get more credit for beating him? No you don't get extra credit for struggling against a guy you're suppose to cream.

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